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Old 07-29-2007, 11:47 PM
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Anything different on the "outside" (exhaust,cooling,f.i.,etc...) of your engine or is it same set up you had?
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Anything different on the "outside" (exhaust,cooling,f.i.,etc...) of your engine or is it same set up you had?


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I don't know about the F25 specs, but the F40 trans is stonger than the F35 and is also a 6 speed. It is used on the turbo Saab.
wish they could bolt up.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by madeinUSA View Post
Anything different on the "outside" (exhaust,cooling,f.i.,etc...) of your engine or is it same set up you had?
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Originally Posted by ssnipes View Post
wish they could bolt up.
bell housing swap. or bellhousing adapter plate
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Blown is my hero.
which is funny cause he's a total nerd IRL :P
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:52 PM
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Ok, so basically everything is done today. In terms of taking care of parts. Finally got the rods figured out. Eagle is going to supply my rods. As it turns out, the 2.2L rod is the same length as the 2.0L rod. The bearing diameter is also the same. The only difference is the pin bore is smaller (21mm vs. 23mm). I talked to Tom Shomba (sp?) who has an 1150 hp RWD Cavy and works at a local dealer ship. He said for some of their less hp motors (650-700 hp) They use the eagle rods and have the pin bore opened up. I'm going to order a GM intake cam blank, and have my stock exhaust cam reground. Tom said with good exhaust flow the exhaust cam is not as important as the intake cam with a supercharger. So I'm doing a pretty radical intake, and grinding the exhaust as much as possible. Centerforce clutches is also supplying a twin disc clutch. So basically, no I just need to get the head ported, crank machined, and neutral balance shafts made, and I can put this son of a bitch back together!!!
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:22 PM
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Sounds good Blown. Sponsored clutch too?
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:06 PM
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Everything sponsored, except the cam blanks, the adjustable cam gears, the head studs, the main studs, and the head gasket.
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What is the total in parts you payed for and parts you received?

just curious.

Obviously installation is free.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:08 PM
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I'm gonna have to pay for like $700-800 in parts and machining. Which is a little more than 1/10 of the cost of the free parts
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So when is ETA?
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:37 PM
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Give me +rep and I'll tell you I'm sick of being at 1 bar!
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:41 PM
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:57 AM
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Good! Keep it comin!
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Originally Posted by sunfirejoe View Post
what is you hp goal, im aioming for 500 next spring, i hope ot be running 12's consistently this fall,

my oil pan is back on,
I am just about hitting 12's with stock internals and likely 260 270 WHP. I have not dynoed it but with my mods that is just an educated guess. My point is you should be better than 12's with that kind of power. more than likely 11's

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Uh, no thanks. I'd rather go through the hassle of messing with the tranny, rather than knocking my power back 100 HP



Glad to help!
Well dont be disappointed to much if you have to change your mind. I hope it holds.


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I don't know about the F25 specs, but the F40 trans is stonger than the F35 and is also a 6 speed. It is used on the turbo Saab.
Just a matter of deciding which has better gear ratios then. F25 was to be the same strength as f35.

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bell housing swap. or bellhousing adapter plate
Hmmm.... did not know bell housing is not cast as part of the tranny. show me links.

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Ok, so basically everything is done today. In terms of taking care of parts. Finally got the rods figured out. Eagle is going to supply my rods. As it turns out, the 2.2L rod is the same length as the 2.0L rod. The bearing diameter is also the same. The only difference is the pin bore is smaller (21mm vs. 23mm). I talked to Tom Shomba (sp?) who has an 1150 hp RWD Cavy and works at a local dealer ship. He said for some of their less hp motors (650-700 hp) They use the eagle rods and have the pin bore opened up. I'm going to order a GM intake cam blank, and have my stock exhaust cam reground. Tom said with good exhaust flow the exhaust cam is not as important as the intake cam with a supercharger. So I'm doing a pretty radical intake, and grinding the exhaust as much as possible. Centerforce clutches is also supplying a twin disc clutch. So basically, no I just need to get the head ported, crank machined, and neutral balance shafts made, and I can put this son of a bitch back together!!!
Now you can get a Blank? As far as exhaust not that important I would think matched flow with no overlap is important. (my questions are intended to learn). GM sells neutral balance shafts. is this a daily driver? I wouldnt do it for the gain of 10HP if it is.

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I'm gonna have to pay for like $700-800 in parts and machining. Which is a little more than 1/10 of the cost of the free parts
where is your car going? SEMA?
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I don't know why everyone says Neutral Balance Shafts aren't good for a daily driver. Witt has them installed on here, and I have them. You barely notice any vibes. Plus you get faster revs such as a lighter flywheel. If you already have any type of solid mount, you definately won't notice the vibes at all. Witt has just the Intense inserts on his lower tranny mounts, and he didn't notice any difference.
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Now you can get a Blank? As far as exhaust not that important I would think matched flow with no overlap is important. (my questions are intended to learn). GM sells neutral balance shafts. is this a daily driver? I wouldnt do it for the gain of 10HP if it is.
Well, I talked to him on the phone, and he has an 1150 hp cavy with a 2.16L ecotec, so I'll take his word for it. He also said they are running 117 degrees of lobe seration on their car. He also said I don't as aggressive an exhaust cam as I do intake, as long as I have a good flowing exhaust (which I do).
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I repped you and didnt get an ETA!!!!!
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:52 PM
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Hopefully, mid to late August for first start up.
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger View Post
Ok, so basically everything is done today. In terms of taking care of parts. Finally got the rods figured out. Eagle is going to supply my rods. As it turns out, the 2.2L rod is the same length as the 2.0L rod. The bearing diameter is also the same. The only difference is the pin bore is smaller (21mm vs. 23mm). I talked to Tom Shomba (sp?) who has an 1150 hp RWD Cavy and works at a local dealer ship. He said for some of their less hp motors (650-700 hp) They use the eagle rods and have the pin bore opened up. I'm going to order a GM intake cam blank, and have my stock exhaust cam reground. Tom said with good exhaust flow the exhaust cam is not as important as the intake cam with a supercharger. So I'm doing a pretty radical intake, and grinding the exhaust as much as possible. Centerforce clutches is also supplying a twin disc clutch. So basically, no I just need to get the head ported, crank machined, and neutral balance shafts made, and I can put this son of a bitch back together!!!
Ahh, so you did actually get to talk to him. And its Tom Shaumbaugh. BTW, his 1150hp cavy is gonna be more like 1300 once he puts on his bigger turbo setup. NHRA authorized it!! You are going to put on the adjustable cam gears too right? Ain't that what he said?
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:50 PM
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Oh yeah, of course I'll have adjustible cam gears.
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Funny how I mention adjustable cam gears and you tell me they are a waste of money.
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