Red's Hybrid Engine Build
#1
Red's Hybrid Engine Build
ok so I started my thread over at gm elite and figured I would share the process and my info over here aswell
goal is 300HP DD Im building a completly new engine to put in the car looking to install it mid summer
2.0 LSJ block
2.2 Crank
Saab 9-3 cylinder Head
Saab 9-3 Intake manifold
10:1 forged wiseco pistons
Eagle Rods
2.2 cams
Front Mount Oil Cooler
cometic multi layer head gasket
ARP head studs
Custom fuel line setup
LSJ valve cover
Custom PCV system
and of course all the custom AN line I can fit under the hood lol
and i will be reusing my curent turbo setup and making some changes to the intercooler and piping
some things may or may not change depending on what kind of deals I can get here and there
and once I get the engine working the way I want mechanicly I will add
FIC6 Piggyback ecu (HPT does not support my ECU and I want more control than trifecta can give me alone )
AEM 3.5 bar MAP sensor
60lb injectors
now time for some pics
saab 9-3 head and intake
more pics of the head
cams and balance shafts
the block and some parts that I got from blkwdoss
picture of the oil return and that package on the ground is the crank
LSJ oil cooler bracket being taped for 10AN front mount oil cooler
more to come in time
goal is 300HP DD Im building a completly new engine to put in the car looking to install it mid summer
2.0 LSJ block
2.2 Crank
Saab 9-3 cylinder Head
Saab 9-3 Intake manifold
10:1 forged wiseco pistons
Eagle Rods
2.2 cams
Front Mount Oil Cooler
cometic multi layer head gasket
ARP head studs
Custom fuel line setup
LSJ valve cover
Custom PCV system
and of course all the custom AN line I can fit under the hood lol
and i will be reusing my curent turbo setup and making some changes to the intercooler and piping
some things may or may not change depending on what kind of deals I can get here and there
and once I get the engine working the way I want mechanicly I will add
FIC6 Piggyback ecu (HPT does not support my ECU and I want more control than trifecta can give me alone )
AEM 3.5 bar MAP sensor
60lb injectors
now time for some pics
saab 9-3 head and intake
more pics of the head
cams and balance shafts
the block and some parts that I got from blkwdoss
picture of the oil return and that package on the ground is the crank
LSJ oil cooler bracket being taped for 10AN front mount oil cooler
more to come in time
Last edited by Axelthered05; 01-15-2014 at 08:48 PM.
#6
yeah I have had a piggyback on the car before, infact if you search for it I wrote a how to for installing the AEM fic6 2-3 years ago that nobody seamed to notice :P anyway the pigyback is just to have a little extra control, because I really dont trust trifecta with a high compression high boost build, they will do the base tuning and after thatI will dial it in perfictly, plus the AEM FIC allows me to data log the car without an aditional computer and it allows me to log the wideband also
#11
2) the LSJ and 9-3 heads look SOOOOOOO much beter than the L61 heads
3) I can use the valve cover from the LSJ which also looks nicer than the crap on the L61
4) I got a complete 9-3 head for $50
5) manifold bolt holes are the right size so I dont have to mill out the bolt holes on the manifold to 8mm
6) I wanted to be able to say I used parts from a bunch of dif engines
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I kinda forgot you were putting it on a 2.2, a LSJ head is the right decision there. I just thought there was more differences in the saab lsj vs chevy lsj. I thought the headstud holes were smaller or something. Whatever the differences, if you have it figured out then good! You should message lsjion for a nice port job
#14
I kinda forgot you were putting it on a 2.2, a LSJ head is the right decision there. I just thought there was more differences in the saab lsj vs chevy lsj. I thought the headstud holes were smaller or something. Whatever the differences, if you have it figured out then good! You should message lsjion for a nice port job
While it's an improvement over a 2.2 head due to better casting and such, I would have still tried to sorce an actual LSJ head. Meh, should still be good enough.
Cool build.
#24
ok got together with PD (blkwdoss) today to take measurements to compare the LSJ and B207R heads keep in mind that there is a little user error in measurements as we were holding the Saab head as we were taking the measurements
The B207R head ports are
Intake port
1.848" wide
1.199" tall
Exhaust Port
1.5" wide
.895" tall
The LSJ head ports are:
Intake port
1.861" wide
1.20" tall
Exhaust Port
1.5" wide
.897" tall
So it is proven that the B207R cylinder head is the same as the LSJ.
HOWEVER THERE ARE 3 VERSIONS OF THIS ENGINE, PD and I think the heads for the B207E/L are diferant than the LSJ
1.8t 2002–present 110 kW (150 PS; 148 hp) @ 5500 rpm 240 N·m (180 lb·ft) @ 2000–3500 rpm Low-pressure (B207E)
2.0t 2002–present 129 kW (175 PS; 173 hp) @ 5500 rpm 265 N·m (195 lb·ft) @ 2500–4000 rpm Mid-pressure (B207L)
2.0T 2002–present 154 kW (209 PS; 207 hp) @ 5300 rpm 300 N·m (220 lb·ft) @ 2500–4000 rpm High-pressure(B207R)
Intake port
1.848" wide
1.199" tall
Exhaust Port
1.5" wide
.895" tall
The LSJ head ports are:
Intake port
1.861" wide
1.20" tall
Exhaust Port
1.5" wide
.897" tall
So it is proven that the B207R cylinder head is the same as the LSJ.
HOWEVER THERE ARE 3 VERSIONS OF THIS ENGINE, PD and I think the heads for the B207E/L are diferant than the LSJ
1.8t 2002–present 110 kW (150 PS; 148 hp) @ 5500 rpm 240 N·m (180 lb·ft) @ 2000–3500 rpm Low-pressure (B207E)
2.0t 2002–present 129 kW (175 PS; 173 hp) @ 5500 rpm 265 N·m (195 lb·ft) @ 2500–4000 rpm Mid-pressure (B207L)
2.0T 2002–present 154 kW (209 PS; 207 hp) @ 5300 rpm 300 N·m (220 lb·ft) @ 2500–4000 rpm High-pressure(B207R)