Are there different types of them? I just got mine and they have a sticker on the side that says "no HID bulb" I can't tell the difference between these and the HID ones tho. does anyone know?

 

yes theres a differance, cheep **** is NEVER HID compliant.
glass, totally spherical projector lens's and is set up to deal with longer focal length that and HID bulb has....

the cheep plastic **** never works out like it should when used with a HID set up..

got it!?

 

...?? the HID ones are the same price... plus the price of the HID kit.... and the lens is glass...

 

the ebay projectors are technically a Halogen projector,
and while its not as good as a true HID projector, it will do the job.

and at the very least it has a lens and a cutoff shield. so it will control the HID output and keep the glare out of oncoming traffics eyes.

which is more than can be said of the half-ass ricers who just slap them in factory reflectors and blind the **** out of everyone.

 

NOOOOOOOOOOO NONONON

the **** on e-bay aint gonna cut it smallz......looks at the various retrofit projects done on here and you'll see what a true HID set up is.

 

yes I see the retrofit HID's, and I'm honestly not a fan of them. It's not a big deal tho dude, I was just curious. It was a christmas present and I love them, they're exactly what I wanted. I just wanted to know what was the deal with the HID thing. Plus another thing to keep in mind dude, is that not everyone can afford the top of the line stuff you're talkin about. Sure it's nice, but wow man, it's also pretty damn expensive, you know?

 

HIDs are what you see on Lexus and Cadillac and high end vehicles. Thats the type of bulb you generally put in projectors. Someone of the ebay projectors are capable of having HID bulbs, that's what I have. 6000k HID and ebay projectors.

 

I have the "ebay" projectors and I put HID's in them......not a problem.

 

well I was just curious because I didn't know if I was going to put them in or not but I didn't want it to melt the housing or anything

 

thats a common misconception with HIDs.
they are in fact cooler running bulbs than a stock halogen.

if your housing was going to melt, it would melt with halogens before HID

 

You won't melt the housing because the HID's produce less heat then the Halogen bulbs, so that is not a worry.

Damn it.......too SSSSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWWW at posting. LOL

 

haha I hate getting out-posted by the forum ninja! I see, well that's good to know. Is it gonna be like all crappy looking if I use the ebay projectors?

 

Nope........should look just fine!

 

Yeah an0lamous had it covered.

Two types of Projector Housings...
1. Halogen
2. HID (D1S, D2S, and now D4S bulbs)

Halogen projectors obviously are just projectors that were designed to be used with Haolgen bulbs. They will not be able to retain HID bulbs unless modification is done to the bulb holders to hold an HID bulb.

Types of OEM HID Projectors
HID Projectors are typically what you see on High End Luxury cars. There are many different types and sizes. The two most common size are 2.5" and 3" Projectors. Models include E46s (BMWs 6 series and older), e55 (BMW 7 Series), TL (Acura)... etc. etc. There are also Single Projectors and Bi-xenon Projectors. Bi-xenon projectors use a soleniod and a shield to incorporate the design of high beams into the projectors. When the solenoid receieves power, the shield folds back allowing the entire Projector diameter to emmit light.

Tempature while burning
An0malous was also correct in saying that they burn cooler than regular halogen lights. HIDs do however require more power and heat to ignite the filament of the bulb, however once lit HIDs actually use less power to stay continously running. You are more likely to melt your housings and wiring harness by upgrading to a 55watt or "Stage 2" bulb in your stock housings. By uping the voltage to receive more light output, the halogen bulb gets much hotter. Also the 55watts draw more current from your charging system, and if your wiring harness was not ran with a thick enough wire to support that power, they well eventually melt.


Light Ouput and Color
Best light output comes from around the 4300 kelvin tempature. 6000 kelvin gives a slight blue tint with very minimal loss in lumens (Measurement of light output). After 6000 the amount of light tends to drop off pretty quick. 8000k are a real blue/purple. 10k is a bright purple and so on up to 25,000 which is almost a pink. Again after 8000 don't expect significant gain in lumens, as you won't get it.

IT IS DANGEROUS, AGAINST THE LAW AND FLAT OUT MEAN TO FELLOW DRIVERS TO PUT AFTERMARKET HID BULBS INTO A REFLECTOR HOUSING... NO MATTER HOW LOW YOU AIM THEM. THEY STILL PRODUCE LARGE AMOUNTS OF GLARE BECAUSE THE LIGHT IS NOT TRUELY AIMED, IT'S REFLECTED. BE SMART AND SAFE, BUY PROJECTORS OR DON'T UPGRADE TO HIDs!

 

good info man. Thanks for all the input guys. It's def. something to keep in mind if I ever go HID.

 

Here are some good questions that are answered about HID's:

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

 

Both An0malous and myself have completed retro-fits and i'm sure could be of help if you needed any.

I know myself personally would rather take the time and help somone get the right inforrmation then have them buy and HID kit and put it in the stock housings.

That looks like a good read!

 

i take it you have little to no experience with a true HID set up then....your statement makes that clear...

they may fit all nice and pretty but if you think thats what a "real" set up would look like then good....but your wrong.

i have HID's in my cobalt with stock housings and personally love the fact that i can **** people off with them if i want, i spent a good deal of time trying to get a decent aim on them and i've yet to get a complaint out of them...now i'm not saying to go this route but until i give a **** enough to do my own retrofit (never gonna happen) or i can buy a true retro-fit'ed housings(I hope!) or some one sells a set of headlights i think look alright, thats how it gonna stay.

i made a turbo kit with a larger turbo then any one has used, and i'd do it again BUT working on headlights like a true retro-fit would take scares me.

also have a local friend who has the e-bay projectors with a set of HID's and while they look "ok" (personally i cant stand them e-bay headlights) when compared to say the HID's on my STi theres simply no comparison....

you get what i'm sayin here? its all a matter of what your comparing them to.

 

I take it that you think your are the HID king with your statement.

I said NOWHERE that I know a lot or everything about a true HID setup. All I said was I have the ebay projectors and I put my HID's in and they work.

So before you go saying that my "statement makes that clear" that I have little or no experience with HID's, why don't you try being a little less of an *******. Is that statement clear enough for you?

 

06Black:

Dude, I think you seriously need to relax. This isn't an attack thread, I was just curious about HID's and the setup with the ebay projectors. Now, it sounds like your pretty knowledgeable about HID's, however so is An0malous and Switt32, but they're just givin info to help out. If you know so much, share a way to help a guy out, not make him feel like **** cause he likes his ebay projectors/HID's, especially since YOU HAVE THE STOCK HOUSINGS WITH HID'S. Don't be a tool dude, you sound like you could be cool if you got that chip off our shoulder.

 

not tryin to attack any one....never wanted to do that, just posting some info....

i did allot of research on HID systems, how they work, why they work, compared to a halogen set up, ect....for a job i used to have.

if i wanted to attack some one i'd make it obvious, i'm just giveing him all the info i have, the rite and wrong way to do things ect.....

never said i was perfect, but i tend to know a hell of allot about what i'm talking about and this guy wanted to know.....and now he does.

 

You know, just because you haven't gotten any complaints from them doesn't mean you aren't blinding every oncoming car you pass...

It's nothing personal, but for someone so knowledgable about the subject, you should probably know better than putting HIDs in stock halogen reflectors. HIDs generally produce more than four times the lumens of halogen bulbs (not to mention the distracting nature of the higher color temperature), and that kind of light really should be controlled, moreso than just blasted all over the place by a normal halogen reflector.

I haven't tried it myself, so I don't know for sure (maybe if you aimed them down and to the right enough, then it might not be so bad), but this just seems to be the case, generally. There are a few people around my area who have HIDs in halogen reflectors, and it's pretty damned distracting, especially in the rain.

Again, it's nothing personal, though. I haven't seen yours, so that might not be the case at all.

 

I agree with the above statement...

Your tactic of aiming them low has no support. Aim them how you want, the problem lies when you shine the light output into a mirror.

 

if you did alot of research on HID systems youd never have HIDs in stock reflectors.