Yes sir! 100% stock except for Diamond pistons and F23 transmission haha

 

Haha. Bulletproof and stock. Win win!

Suprised he isn't running at least stage 2 or something.

 

SSnipes sold his car about 2 years ago, Thought still has his with a TVS but he moved to saskatoon (saw him out there a year ago) Hispano still has his car, has rims and stuff. Nutreno (who i assume you mean) gave his car up for lease.

I typically see nutreno and Hispanio on the weekends. Good guys. Lots has changed since like 4 years ago haha.

 

Would you go with a stage 2 after running 400+ whp? I can't wait till he turbos the camaro!

 

Yea I think I remember popping in here when snnipes had just got rid of his car. Thoughts in Saskatoon? Damn, he would have been a good guy to talk to see if he knew the previous owner of my car. Dont know that nutreno guy personally but just remember him being a mouthy **** and from what I remember was talking **** about my buddy Euter. I have to assume tamara(i think that was her name) no longer has her SS?

BTW Projekt im on the fence with either GMS1 or Trifecta.. Heres your chance to 'sell me' on Trifecta..


Bluelightning - I have to assume kenny went with an SS?

 

Yeah it's a black SS. For the cost of a gms1 and a trifecta tune I would go trifecta for sure if you don't have or care about warranty

 

Yea thats what ive been starting to think. My main concern at first was warranty(still has bumper to bumper til march) but now im not sure if I even care about that(if I can switch back to the stock tune). How much of a pain is it to flash back to the stock tune(for lets say winter or a trip to the dealer)?

 

GMS1 has been known to have its "issues" running cars incredibly rich (thank you GM) And people blowing parts.

That said, Its all how you take care of your Car.

GMS1 you will retain warranty, so if anything breaks obviously your covered.

Trifecta on the other hand, Is a safer-better performance tune. As for warranty yes it does void your warranty however with the stealth tune it makes it undetecable.


Or you can just have your local trifecta dealer come and remove the tune. As our cars do not have a black box so it does not get recorded.


Also, Price is the worst, GMS1 being expensive (500 + if i recall) and trifecta only costing around 300 (for the stealth tune and such) your saving yourself some coin.

As far as which one you should pick, i'd do some reading on the forums here. Each have their pro's and con's.

As far how much of a pain it is. Ill just meet up with you somewhere around were i work or live and flash you back (maybe for the price of a mc chicken :P) lol.

And i am sure people who i have tuned on her can mention, i really don't have problems meeting up to do things like that (right mike?)



As for the previous owner of your car, When i was out in STOON last year for a cobalt meet no one really had heard of any SS/TC's just a few stock ones, So you'r probably pretty safe on the one you got.

 

If you were curious on a GMS1 and someone local running it talk to slapbetcommissioner. I don't think he has had any issues at all with his tune. Runs rich, yes probably but what canned tune doesn't

 

Exactly.

Also depending on the KM's on the car, Id recomend ever LNF seafoams their vehicles past 25,000 KM's

Apparently rich running cars (tuned vehicles) have tons of carbon build up in the intake valves. seafoaming them clears it right up (or regularly running meth injections)

I am sure Jon can input more information on it, since he knows it all !

 

Isnt mikes car still running pig rich from the last time you tuned him? Haha. Sorry just stirring the pot

 

Ya it's still a rich pig but a few things I had that knock issue which I think fuel was added to address that so maybe a but to much not sure. Also I have not had time to meet up with Jp to do a log to try an address it on that note Jp ha always been available when we had to meet but ya Jp we gotta do a log and see if we can do a bit better now that the clutch is broken in

 

Lol its gonna feel slow compaired to his camaro and his turbo build either way. just figured he would go with the most of what he can get without going dangerous and blowing **** up again lol. just figured hed want it to feel as un anemic as possible haha.

 

Ah I just think he's had his fun in his Balt and now it's time to move on to bigger and better things.

 

My Personal experience with GMS1 has been that it runs between 14.2 and 15.2 AFR with the stock airbox and about 14.4-15.00 with my K&N SRI. I have had almost no issues as of now except a warn out clutch haha. (my bad in the middle of winter with a third gear start.... busy texting haha.) The only issue i have had has been Turbo flutter and 5psi for a period of time. This i think may have more to do with the BPV being garbage or the Waste gate needing A)replacement or b) to be tightned up a bit. The other thing may be the actual Cold side Sensor not being seated properly. At any rate i have had erratic fuel trims and drivablity probems on occasion. This could be attributed to the intake as well. i am currently in the process of narrowing this down. Otherwise no issues to report.

If your warrenty is done in march i would just wait until your warrenty is done (feel your car out stock and see if you are having any issues that gm can correct before you start playing. It will be winter in a couple weeks and the extra power will not be usefull (IMHO)
and then i would go trifecta for the sheer performance of it and also because you wont be screwing around with any sensors.

Thats my opinion. dont get me wrong the GMS1 is good upgrade and i love it. theres just more to be had and it was purely a decision based on needing warrenty for my DD
also if you plan on adding parts the lnf can be finicky and needs ot be fine tuned (especailly intakes) K&N has been good to me however... not all have good luck...

no doubt. the camaro is definitely the to to build up!

 

Right now the only 'mod' is Injen Intake. I was actually thinking the exact same thing as you, then I started to think if something went wrong shortly after GMS1 or Trifecta(if I waited til warranty was up) im SOL and will have to cover all costs. the way im looking at it is if I can get either before snow hits, I can get a few good pulls with it and see if anythings gonna go on it(while I still have bumper to bumper), then flash it back to stock once the snow hits. Or I can run GMS1 over winter and see if it holds up, and if not ill be covered.

 

FYI my AFR is between 13.8 while cruising around ad down to 10.0 under moderate to heavy throttle at idle it bounces between 13.8 and 17.5 and I mean bounce

 

As it stands right now im deff leaning towards Trifecta. The only reason I would get GMS1 is to see how the car handles more power while I still have all my warranty. So lets say I went with Trifecta and tomorrow you decided to sell your car and no longer do any Trifecta work - What are my options? Would all I need to do is buy the cable from them, and rent the scanner? Lets say Ive decided right now that Im going the Trifecta route - Where does the process begin? Or do I just meet up with you and we go from there? How long does the process take?

Thanks!

 

You would be able to just buy or rent a cable i believe and then good to go. just via emails to Vince @trifecta.
Set up an appointment with Projekt and he will get a base file set up for you. Flash it, Data log it, send it to vince, he will alter it a couple times to dial it in. and then you should be good to go. That injen intak is the Biggest cause of Erratic fuel trims on LNF cars.. especially with a stock tune. i have been told they are the hardest to tune for as well. Not allot of R&D put Into them. Are you posative theres no tune on the car currently? or did the owner say it was stock aside form the intake?

 

Wait till spring. I getting trifecta from projekt sometime in spring. No need to rush it with our chilly winters, won't be able to have any fun with it spinning on snow and ice

 

Ok seems like a pretty quick process. From what ive read it appears injen deff has its issues. Ive read even when tuned for it you can lose more midrange power then you'll gain up top with it. The only aftermarket parts are the intake and the 245 pirelli's(and yes they rub ). He said its never been tuned but obviously I can only go by what he told me/what I was able to dig up on the car.

 

The only reason for getting it now would be to put it thru its paces before warranty expires, and would likely only be on the car for a week or 2 before going back to the stock tune. If I wait til next summer I wont have a chance to test it out on the car before bumper to bumper expires. Thats my biggest concern right now

 

AFR from an SS/SC to a SS/TC will be completely different. But you are rich all around thats for sure. The bouncing is normal.

I highly doubt your car will have any issues putting it through it's paces for 2 weeks. Look at Jordans car. He's had almost no issues running his set up. Wait till spring.

 

You would still have the standard GM 5 year/160,000km powertrain warranty;
this would cover you from a mechanical mishap because of any "faulty" mechanical part/compenent ect;
As an example, a local just got his '07 SS/SC transmission done under warranty - and he's past 100,000 km's...

Don't sweat it man.

the biggest differences between powertrain and bumper to bumper can probably be best explained in my following examples:

• bow tie emblems had the chome underlayer coming apart; badges replaced under bumper to bumper
  
• headlights took in and retained moisture; headlights replaced under bumper to bumper
  
• Chrome exhaust tip - the chorme was cracked; the whole exhaust was replaced under the bumper to bumper warranty
  (and this is the latest ~ just got it done yesterday! ~ because the tip is a part of the exhaust assembly, and the defective component required the whole assembly be changed out)

none of these examples would be covered under the 'powertrain warranty' - but would be covered by the bumper to bumper, or any purchased 'GM Protection Plan'(extended warranty) ~ I was talking to the local dealer about this yesterday - apparently the price of the extended warranty goes up by an average of $1,200 after you hit 60,000 km's

the GM Stage 1 can be just as sedate as the stock tune - but makes more when you lay into it...
I had always planned on getting stage 1 - and actually bought my kit in spring 2010...

If you do buy the kit, buy it from CED and get the pigtails so you don't have to cut/splice your factory wiring;
I got the pigtails because the wiring going to the lower chargepipe MAP has maybe 2" of length... and *surprise surprise* is pretty much to blame for 98% of the Cobalt SS/TC Stage1 "issues"...

oh yeah - the upper map (for me at least) needed to have it's mounting hole hogged out a bit - if you do the install yourself, don't be like me, and think 15 minutes will suffice for the install... then get caught with your proverbial pants down becasue you spent 45 minutes filing the mounting hole (first by hand, then with the aid of a power drill) larger...

 

Wow lots to reply to first off (also count i am kind of half cut)

WPG SS/SC - As i am a businessman but a enthusiast at heart, id say wait till spring. Its going to snow soon and if you decided to go with trifecta i really want you to be able to experience it.

If i do sell my car, i will likely remain with GM simply for the ease of tuning solutions. If i do not, i doubt i will sell my trifecta cable. So i will more then likely always be able to come do reflashes or tune other customers.

As far as that injen intake goes. Stock - it hurts. Simple as that. We can tune for it (as i have with my Dejon intake, and dejon made the shittiest intakes for our cars)

Like dustin said, My car has soon almost no effects of trouble. I have every bolt on you can get. Ive pushed the car to its bolt on limits. I do have a CEL right now, which is for a very weird issue caused by the by pass valve. Not the tunes fault, My fault.

If you decided to go the route of a new intake, Id advise to do the KN intake or stock. Those are the two best.

After a tune, Go for a catless downpipe. Huge gains.