ok ok ok i am here, LOL...

first graham your welcome!!!!! i just remember back too the sunfire days....

secondly, kris man next time is your turn!!!! also take it easy bud... just tell them to take it to pm... i do agree with you too... so which brings me to the 2... guys!!!! what does it take for you 2, to keep that crap out? whatever it is do it!!!!! graham, jon i happen to like the both of you. but honestly guys it has to stop!!!!!!!

kass.... where do i start.... lol ok you seem like a alright person... do us a favor... dont get the 2 worked up....


as for project, becareful on which dog you call out coz you may call out the wrong dog!!!!! OK!!!!!


sask delta lol


now i wanna say something about fri.... ok believe me or not!!!! me and ella are sitting in the stands and i am overhearing 2 guys talk about kris and graham... he was telling the story to his buddy about how the 2 raced last time they went. of coarse what was happening this week with them.... as per racing each other... i do not know this guy from anywhere.... never seen him before... this guy wasnt bashing them however he was telling a good story and was fairly accurate.... i stayed quiet and didnt say anything... i said to myself then that people dont really remember how fast you go they remember the quality of the race...

jonathan, man i had a great time fri. i dont know about you??? i wanna see more of that in the future....

once again tjay i am sorry we missed you!!!! honestly stupid as the joke sounded with the boost guage... people were actually getting a good laugh from it!!!!

 

Haha, thanks jr, boost gauge makes sense now if it was a joke, I just didn't get installing one on an n/a car. As for the rest of this **** happening, you will see the same thing happen as did for last couple months, about 5 of us will drop out of the thread. For a whilebecause of the drama and it never seeming to be anything but drama in here these day, none of us or involved but there's no reason posting if this is how's things go. ( Ie. Post something about cars or looking for help and it goes to **** converation the next post). I have met most of the people and everyone is good but for some reason everyone people are acting like a bunch of women who hate eachother. If you don't get along move on, there is an ignore button to ignore certain posters if you chose. Hopefully I will see some of you down at the track next weekend when ill be pushing my car to the max)

 

Graham and I are women who hate each other

 

i will be down next friday but not sure if i will race just permitting cash lol

and as for graham i have completed my shopping list and man next summer you cant touch me as long as you are not booseted

i do have one question and thats what kind of header should i get from looking at my time slips it seems like i loose power at about the 1000 foot mark i have a shorty header to install but not sure if i should get something different

 

and ya when me a graham race it must be somewhat entertaining lol 2 slowbalts that duke it out over and over and ya it was fun racing until i got ass raped by a skittle lol i have a new respect for those cars

 

So I think my new springs are gonna have to wait till spring now to install

 

why?
(for some reason I actually thought they were already installed!!?)

 

Thats My fault I must have been misinformed, I too thought they were already on Steve's car. sorry

 

As for next week, All depends on the weather, me and Klo might take a venture there but we will not be racing.

Kris, as for parts if I do the mods I want to like I said if we both keep N/A you will be around 15.5-15.7 , and I will be around 15.7-15.9. If my math is correct (and so far it has been dead on)

 

no i was supposed to install my new springs last night but my buddy never called me to let me know i could get into the garage, i'm hoping i don't have to wait till spring as i have had the tenzo's sitting in my room since july now

 

dude that sucks...

 

sucks man i was hoping to see that thing slammed and ya grahem your math has been pretty good so far who knew that you would be good at math lol jk and ya now going to get all my parts over the winter and park my car and buy a beater so if anyone knows where i can find a reliable cheap winter car let me know

 

Grahams great at math. He adds $ sign to everything.

 

Same with every woman in the world :P

 

please don't be offended by this Chris;
Why would you be worried about driving this in winter?

It's not like it's an irreplaceable 40 year old musclecar - if you get full coverage and something happens, then you won't have to buy any upgrades over winter, you would be buying an upgraded car

I'd encourage you drive it year round, and just not let salt sit on the car (especially in the wheel wells & underbody - because generally people let it accumulate there) - if you take car of it, and keep it clean, it will make it through winter without a single problem.

if you're worried about rock chips have mark hook you up with paint protection...

IMHO, if you're already financially extended, buying a 2nd car when you don't have to isn't a good move... but as I said, that's my opinion.

 

Not every woman!!! lol it's true he will vouch for it. If it has a dollar sign he can do that math in .5

 

ya jon my worry is cause it is so low and it is my new summer toy lol i am selling my barracuda and doing major upgrades to my balt i have a lift that it is being stored on i just really dont want to drive it in the winter i am a perfectionist and it is getting new paint done over the winter as well

 

and jon there isnt much you can say to offend me from you personally except for the the fact that you stripped grahmas interior lol jk that was completely unexpected for that much to be done

 

tell you the truth tjay, i figure i am going to drop out too.... no matter what i say or try the drama never ends..... if anyone needs to get ahold of me just pm me.... as for fri... maybe i will show up after i go check out my buddy and his band... it is a invite show only.....

 

good to know.

some people get really touchy when offering an opinion/suggestion that doesn't sync up with what they want to do.

One of the reason's why I would encourage you to just drive your car like it is, is because at the end of the day your car is supposed to be a daily driver - and unlike an SS/2.4/5spd, your car has a much larger potential buying audience - that coupled with hte marginal price increase for a same year SS/SC, it seems to me to be a little crazy for anyone to go overboard putting a ton of money into a 2.4L car when you cna put a fraction of that money in an SS/SC and get a WAYYY better turn around on your $$...

The only reason why I stuck with my older Quad4 Grand am, is:

1. I owed nothing on it
2. it made 180hp bone stock (relatively the same as your car)
3. I couldn't justify spending $30k on a Cobalt (advertized) with only a 25hp increase over my GA

I started looking at Cobalt's as soon as I saw the SS/TC was available in Canada - because:

• made 80hp more than my GA ins stock trim
• has wayyy more potential than my GA
• I had never planned on turbo charging my GA - because few have done it, and of the turbo Quad4 cars I've seen, all the engines looked haggard
• I was dealing with an outdated platform that was already impossible to find hop-up parts for
• and, I have never owned a new car before...

but back to SS/2.4 vs SS/SC, chew on the following;

for example;
(using Kelly Blue Book's "private party" values; 100,00miles(161,000km)/good condition)
2006 SS coupe/automatic = $7,115
2006 SS Supercharged = $8,445

that's a whopping $1,300 difference in value!!
~ although I have not paid too much attention to values of 2005-2007 Cobalt SS/SC or SS/2.4L KBB's info is going to have a huge degree of relevance to our market (just ask yourself what dealers ect use when figuring out car values; KBB is the standard)
~~ now insurance aside, wouldn't you happily spend an extra $1,300 to have an SS/SC?

Now, I don't know if you're paying for your car or what not, but if you played your cards right (meaning had alot of patience) I don't doubt you could sell your car, and buy an SS/SC for a little bit more, and not have to mess with buying anything to blow Calgarybalt out of the water!

just some food for thought...

 

BaltBitch Is right, I am only good at math if it has $$ signs in front of it. without that I look at all the numbers and just get confused. but put a $ infront of the equation and its like light bulbs turn on in my head I just know the answer.

As for the 2.4 issue I think you should just get a set of different shocks and struts mounted with your old springs in order not to damage your car. but thats just my opionion I know I personally did alot of winter driving last year, and Missy can vouch for the fact that on a couple instances without winters, and if i was lowered we would have never made it home ( alive lol )

 

Steve why don't you just swing by and I will help you in at night swap out all your springs ( just rent a spring compressor and the rest is easy?)

 

ya i dont know guys jon i get the point of putting money into a SC but i really love my 2.4 and with time would like to SC it myslef it is a bit more satisfaction of doing something on your own or with the help of a few friends then going and buying something that was made by the factory lol

o mark by the way graham has a black hvac

 

ok fair enough;
I just know first hand about getting attached to a car, but at the same time, an uphill battle is just that - but if you want a car faster than what you currently have a bone stock SS/SC is a full second faster than you - without any trickery/lightening...
(then again, so is my GA )

 

lol ya i am going to stick with my first thought lol and just going to toy with it over the winter