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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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hey ralli im totally with you on this...
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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it will not make that big of a difference on a stock car im sorry not even my car would a h/e make a life altering change, meth maybe with a sweet tune yes, but just a h/e no way in hell
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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you are just being riduculous now. and saying I don't know how to drive is funny. I was having problems with launching at the track. I know how to launch now. I limited the boost in 1st gear and solidified my motor mounts which helped me get better traction. I have vids of me outlaunching wrx's and eclipse gsx's. I know how to drive. everytime I go to the track, I run extremely consistent. My mph is the same and Unless I change my launch my e.t's remain the same.

Oh, and engine mounts allow you to put more power to the ground as well. So you will be making a bit more Wheel Power with mounts.

and I'm sold on a h/e upgrade being a power mod. I proved it. Maybe if you try it you'll see the same effects I saw. Until you try it, I don't think you have any ground to stand on. I already proved it. Prove me wrong.
wow, you are not nearly as intelligent as i actually thought you were. you are outlaunching gsx's and wrx's? lmao, were you racing drivers with one leg? you said yourself you arent good at launching, so adding mods to your car to make it easier to launch does not make you a better driver, it makes the car easier to drive. everytime you go to track you dont exactly run very quickly if 14.4@101 is your best with those mods. you have still proved absolutely nothing

just for a good laugh, what kinda 60's are you cutting?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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wow, you are not nearly as intelligent as i actually thought you were. you are outlaunching gsx's and wrx's? lmao, were you racing drivers with one leg? you said yourself you arent good at launching, so adding mods to your car to make it easier to launch does not make you a better driver, it makes the car easier to drive. everytime you go to track you dont exactly run very quickly if 14.4@101 is your best with those mods. you have still proved absolutely nothing

just for a good laugh, what kinda 60's are you cutting?
read my post a little more thoroughly. I said I wasn't good at launching this car. after the drag season was over I played around with hp tuners and did some boost limiting in 1st gear and finally figured out how to launch this thing. Here are some vids from October when I raced a wrx and gsx. The gsx driver said himself that he was launching at 6000rpms. I was cutting 2.3 and 2.4 60fts during my drag strip visits. but i'm positive I could cut a 2.0 now. Plus I'm getting stickier tires, so I should be able to pull a sub 2.0 sixty on some nice sticky drag radials.


these are all vs a 1g awd gsx






these are vs a 02/03 wrx


here is one where I actually fucked up my launch


here are some pics of the gsx and the wrx






those launches are called lots of practice. I probably couldn't do that right now if I wanted to as I haven't even driven my car in over a month now. Too much snow around here. I'm commuting to work in my tribeca.

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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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I know what both parties are trying to say and you know what, according to your god send HPT ralli is correct. Oh, and time plays 0 in how much horsepower you are putting out zero zip nothing. Your mph tells you more about engine power improvements than time will. Ralli gaining 5mph and .2 in the 1/4 says a ton. The car is making more power!!!! You are a retard if you think otherwise. A stock cobalt SS heats up significantly on a SINGLE 1/4 mile run causing reduced timing and less power. WOW. you have HPT, do it, go and watch your IAT2's. He has already proved it.
Question: If I want to drive like a tard, why on street tires can I drive my Camaro to a 14.XXX and trap 115mph???? Then, on the same tires, with no changes to the car except I want to drive better I can run a 11.8 @ 116mph????? WTF??? how did I make all this extra power???? Because according to some of you cutting ralli's time the .2 diff in 1/4 mile time means everything and the 5 mph means nothing. Soooo, my car from the 14.XXXX must have only made 200hp and then by some miracle, made over 500 the next pass running 11.8.
sorry for the rant, but some of you really talk out of your asses.
PS.... HPT is wrong on injector DC. Ralli, if your up to it, I will PM you the correct time for static on stock and 42lb injectors for your tuning for spring.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Trap can be infalted from one day to the next im not going to take the time to explain it, but if its colder, he has a worse 60ft things tend to add up a little on the trap side.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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i dont see it happening without a smaller pulley, or some other power mods

good luck, but i doubt it.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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I think you will to. I know my car can do it with the DRs on. I'm selling her soon though and I don't want to beat on her. She in storage for the winter....Good luck with 12s.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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hey anom- I did the same exact thing you are doing axles, dr, and mounts my fastest time was a 13.9@106.3 Just wanna say be careful cuz my tranny went shortly after Just be careful if there is such a thing.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Just wanted to add some advice. I would have engine mount but not sure if tranny mounts are a good idea. With the DR's on your going to hook hard and those LSJ tranny's just can't handle it. I don't really care what people say I know because I have had my tranny out and in and had a profes. race tranny guy look at the tranny. Racing Clutch, Tranny Mounts, DRs, and more then stage II power = hard on the tranny.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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sorry for crapping in your thread Anom. I hope you hit the 12's but really, just getting closer is always a good thing.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by glockglade
hey anom- I did the same exact thing you are doing axles, dr, and mounts my fastest time was a 13.9@106.3 Just wanna say be careful cuz my tranny went shortly after Just be careful if there is such a thing.
I agree. I ran a 13.6 without DRs without downpipe, without header, without mounts, without some other odds and ends. Soon as you add more power its danger zone for tranny with hard launches. I have had our trannys apart and I have seen a freinds took let loose and crack the case. He has the exact same mods as me. Kind of scary.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
I agree. I ran a 13.6 without DRs without downpipe, without header, without mounts, without some other odds and ends. Soon as you add more power its danger zone for tranny with hard launches. I have had our trannys apart and I have seen a freinds took let loose and crack the case. He has the exact same mods as me. Kind of scary.
Thats exactly what happened to me... hard launch and the input shaft cracked the tranny case and then it kind of blew apart, would have been pretty cool except for the bill afterwards...
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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yea, sorry about ruining the thread anom. At least it was a good arguement. I hope you hit your 12's though and I think you will. I pray that nothing breaks and you hit your goals. GOOD LUCK and show everyone what the ss is capable of!
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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so whats next? meth?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
you are just being riduculous now. and saying I don't know how to drive is funny. I was having problems with launching at the track. I know how to launch now. I limited the boost in 1st gear and solidified my motor mounts which helped me get better traction. I have vids of me outlaunching wrx's and eclipse gsx's. I know how to drive. everytime I go to the track, I run extremely consistent. My mph is the same and Unless I change my launch my e.t's remain the same.

Oh, and engine mounts allow you to put more power to the ground as well. So you will be making a bit more Wheel Power with mounts.

and I'm sold on a h/e upgrade being a power mod. I proved it. Maybe if you try it you'll see the same effects I saw. Until you try it, I don't think you have any ground to stand on. I already proved it. Prove me wrong.
I know him personally and know that the H/E aftermarket mod is a power mod. I even did the mod to my SS/SC. This mod caused lower temperatures with the Supercharger, which caused less heat soak and more power gain. It was not a huge gain, but I would have to say a gain of 5 mph in his trap speed is proof right there.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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you have ears but they don't listen
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSSSC
I know him personally and know that the H/E aftermarket mod is a power mod. I even did the mod to my SS/SC. This mod caused lower temperatures with the Supercharger, which caused less heat soak and more power gain. It was not a huge gain, but I would have to say a gain of 5 mph in his trap speed is proof right there.
Jesus you guys just don't get it. He soak causes POWER LOSS fixing heat soak will keep you from LOOSING POWER due to getting hot. This does not mean more power for the 500th time, it means your car will keep its power longer due to 1 more coolant and 2 the heat exchanger! If you really think that I am sorry to say but you are with out a doubt DUMB. Hell ralliartist when you put those new tires on you should pick up another 20-30 HP huh.

And Rippin07 you even said your self:"A stock cobalt SS heats up significantly on a SINGLE 1/4 mile run causing reduced timing and less power." You are correct, so why do you add the HE? TO STOP LOOSING POWER THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE!
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Jesus you guys just don't get it. He soak causes POWER LOSS fixing heat soak will keep you from LOOSING POWER due to getting hot. This does not mean more power for the 500th time, it means your car will keep its power longer due to 1 more coolant and 2 the heat exchanger! If you really think that I am sorry to say but you are with out a doubt DUMB. Hell ralliartist when you put those new tires on you should pick up another 20-30 HP huh.

And Rippin07 you even said your self:"A stock cobalt SS heats up significantly on a SINGLE 1/4 mile run causing reduced timing and less power." You are correct, so why do you add the HE? TO STOP LOOSING POWER THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE!
give it a rest already. post your arguement in my thread in my sig. let anom have his thread back already.

Do you RBC believe anom will hit 12's or not?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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I have already posted about that. And I said yeas I think he has a good shot at it.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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GOOD LUCK I think it can be done I ran 60'=2.26 speed = 104.5 time = 14.168 so I think his speed will have to be much higher then anyone has said .
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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your 1-2 shift has a lot to do with it too powerz. even though you had an ok 60ft., you may have spun a considerable amount during your 1-2 shift. With those tires anom will be using, he shouldn't break a tires loose on the 1-2 shift.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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here is for the cobra H/E argument-

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...88#post1765588
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rippin07
I know what both parties are trying to say and you know what, according to your god send HPT ralli is correct. Oh, and time plays 0 in how much horsepower you are putting out zero zip nothing. Your mph tells you more about engine power improvements than time will. Ralli gaining 5mph and .2 in the 1/4 says a ton. The car is making more power!!!! You are a retard if you think otherwise. A stock cobalt SS heats up significantly on a SINGLE 1/4 mile run causing reduced timing and less power. WOW. you have HPT, do it, go and watch your IAT2's. He has already proved it.
Question: If I want to drive like a tard, why on street tires can I drive my Camaro to a 14.XXX and trap 115mph???? Then, on the same tires, with no changes to the car except I want to drive better I can run a 11.8 @ 116mph????? WTF??? how did I make all this extra power???? Because according to some of you cutting ralli's time the .2 diff in 1/4 mile time means everything and the 5 mph means nothing. Soooo, my car from the 14.XXXX must have only made 200hp and then by some miracle, made over 500 the next pass running 11.8.
sorry for the rant, but some of you really talk out of your asses.
PS.... HPT is wrong on injector DC. Ralli, if your up to it, I will PM you the correct time for static on stock and 42lb injectors for your tuning for spring.

you quote all about HPT, but your completely wrong.
I already gave the numbers in this thread, and you STILL try and use it as some sort of proof?
Go and look at your IAT2 vs spark advance table, and then come back and talk.

as long as your car stays below 140* IAT2, cooling mods arent going to help you nearly as much as you seem to think.
Unless you think 1-3* of timing is worth 30+hp?
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Damn, every thread turns into an arguement... anyways you will see an increase in vibrations w/ the mounts which I'm sure you prob allready figured. It will settle down a little after a while though. Either that or I've just gotten used to it lol
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