12s?
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I think 12's are possible, but I'm pretty sure you'll need 107mph to do it here on our crappy track.
Going to edmonton will get you your 12's for sure with those mods and the power mods you have planned. It's good for almost 2/10ths over calgary on a s/c car.
N/a cars see as much as .5, most are .3-.4.
We'll have to have a friendly race next year, should be close enough.
I'm hoping to get 13.3-13.4 in Calgary, and then 13.0-13.1 in edmonton.
Good luck, see you in the pits!
Going to edmonton will get you your 12's for sure with those mods and the power mods you have planned. It's good for almost 2/10ths over calgary on a s/c car.
N/a cars see as much as .5, most are .3-.4.
We'll have to have a friendly race next year, should be close enough.
I'm hoping to get 13.3-13.4 in Calgary, and then 13.0-13.1 in edmonton.
Good luck, see you in the pits!
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I live about 5km from castrol 
yes, my 13.6 run involved some healthy boost reduction to give me my good 60 and 330 ft times.
which is one thing that has me excited.
because the slicks/mounts/axles is going to allow me to bump that boost up considerably through first gear.
which is one thing that has me excited.
because the slicks/mounts/axles is going to allow me to bump that boost up considerably through first gear.
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I'm going to dable in on this one. Here is my take on things as I have seen and proved it myself.
1. Better traction, a better clutch, and DSS Stg2 axles = a broken 3rd gear for me at the track. I wasn't running slicks and all I had was and Ingalls TD for wheel hop, but when I pushed the clutch in and put it in third gear exploded without a hop, grind, or anything! Be cognisent of this as I am on tranny #3 already and they get expensive.
2. As for the HE adding HP, I'll go 50/50 on this. For all intents and purposes, a car receiving colder denser air into the combustion chambers will effectively make more power because a better burn will occur. From this we can conclude that the HE allows the air entering the combustion chambers to be colder effectively gaining horsepower from it. Also, it can be known that the blower will not heatsoak as badly and recover faster from it with the HE preventing the loss of HP due to the hot air entering the combustion chamber. I have seen turbo cars gain up to 60whp with the addition of a more efficient intercooler and no tuning, thus prooving both points here.
3. With methanol injection, I spray before the blower and can confirm that it makes my blower a lot colder considering I have a 2.6" pulley right now. After a bunch of consecutive pulls I did, I pulled over and placed my hand on the blower. Without the methanol, it would have burned my hand, but with my methanol I could touch it and it was nice and cool. Now methanol will effectively add more power without tuning by adding higher octane into the combustion chamber and cooling the air charge at the same time. Colder denser air and higher octane would definitely yield more horsepower. Tuning on top of that will net even greater yields.
4. I hope you make it into the 12's bro, because I had a goal of high 7's in the 1/8th, but after tranny's breakages and whatnot the Cobalt will not go the track anymore. Thus, I picked up my Integra that will be getting a set of slicks for next season and a tuning system as well. It will run in the 7's without a doubt!
1. Better traction, a better clutch, and DSS Stg2 axles = a broken 3rd gear for me at the track. I wasn't running slicks and all I had was and Ingalls TD for wheel hop, but when I pushed the clutch in and put it in third gear exploded without a hop, grind, or anything! Be cognisent of this as I am on tranny #3 already and they get expensive.
2. As for the HE adding HP, I'll go 50/50 on this. For all intents and purposes, a car receiving colder denser air into the combustion chambers will effectively make more power because a better burn will occur. From this we can conclude that the HE allows the air entering the combustion chambers to be colder effectively gaining horsepower from it. Also, it can be known that the blower will not heatsoak as badly and recover faster from it with the HE preventing the loss of HP due to the hot air entering the combustion chamber. I have seen turbo cars gain up to 60whp with the addition of a more efficient intercooler and no tuning, thus prooving both points here.
3. With methanol injection, I spray before the blower and can confirm that it makes my blower a lot colder considering I have a 2.6" pulley right now. After a bunch of consecutive pulls I did, I pulled over and placed my hand on the blower. Without the methanol, it would have burned my hand, but with my methanol I could touch it and it was nice and cool.
Now methanol will effectively add more power without tuning by adding higher octane into the combustion chamber and cooling the air charge at the same time. Colder denser air and higher octane would definitely yield more horsepower. Tuning on top of that will net even greater yields.4. I hope you make it into the 12's bro, because I had a goal of high 7's in the 1/8th, but after tranny's breakages and whatnot the Cobalt will not go the track anymore. Thus, I picked up my Integra that will be getting a set of slicks for next season and a tuning system as well. It will run in the 7's without a doubt!
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I'm going to dable in on this one. Here is my take on things as I have seen and proved it myself.
1. Better traction, a better clutch, and DSS Stg2 axles = a broken 3rd gear for me at the track. I wasn't running slicks and all I had was and Ingalls TD for wheel hop, but when I pushed the clutch in and put it in third gear exploded without a hop, grind, or anything! Be cognisent of this as I am on tranny #3 already and they get expensive.
2. As for the HE adding HP, I'll go 50/50 on this. For all intents and purposes, a car receiving colder denser air into the combustion chambers will effectively make more power because a better burn will occur. From this we can conclude that the HE allows the air entering the combustion chambers to be colder effectively gaining horsepower from it. Also, it can be known that the blower will not heatsoak as badly and recover faster from it with the HE preventing the loss of HP due to the hot air entering the combustion chamber. I have seen turbo cars gain up to 60whp with the addition of a more efficient intercooler and no tuning, thus prooving both points here.
3. With methanol injection, I spray before the blower and can confirm that it makes my blower a lot colder considering I have a 2.6" pulley right now. After a bunch of consecutive pulls I did, I pulled over and placed my hand on the blower. Without the methanol, it would have burned my hand, but with my methanol I could touch it and it was nice and cool. Now methanol will effectively add more power without tuning by adding higher octane into the combustion chamber and cooling the air charge at the same time. Colder denser air and higher octane would definitely yield more horsepower. Tuning on top of that will net even greater yields.
4. I hope you make it into the 12's bro, because I had a goal of high 7's in the 1/8th, but after tranny's breakages and whatnot the Cobalt will not go the track anymore. Thus, I picked up my Integra that will be getting a set of slicks for next season and a tuning system as well. It will run in the 7's without a doubt!
1. Better traction, a better clutch, and DSS Stg2 axles = a broken 3rd gear for me at the track. I wasn't running slicks and all I had was and Ingalls TD for wheel hop, but when I pushed the clutch in and put it in third gear exploded without a hop, grind, or anything! Be cognisent of this as I am on tranny #3 already and they get expensive.
2. As for the HE adding HP, I'll go 50/50 on this. For all intents and purposes, a car receiving colder denser air into the combustion chambers will effectively make more power because a better burn will occur. From this we can conclude that the HE allows the air entering the combustion chambers to be colder effectively gaining horsepower from it. Also, it can be known that the blower will not heatsoak as badly and recover faster from it with the HE preventing the loss of HP due to the hot air entering the combustion chamber. I have seen turbo cars gain up to 60whp with the addition of a more efficient intercooler and no tuning, thus prooving both points here.
3. With methanol injection, I spray before the blower and can confirm that it makes my blower a lot colder considering I have a 2.6" pulley right now. After a bunch of consecutive pulls I did, I pulled over and placed my hand on the blower. Without the methanol, it would have burned my hand, but with my methanol I could touch it and it was nice and cool.
Now methanol will effectively add more power without tuning by adding higher octane into the combustion chamber and cooling the air charge at the same time. Colder denser air and higher octane would definitely yield more horsepower. Tuning on top of that will net even greater yields.4. I hope you make it into the 12's bro, because I had a goal of high 7's in the 1/8th, but after tranny's breakages and whatnot the Cobalt will not go the track anymore. Thus, I picked up my Integra that will be getting a set of slicks for next season and a tuning system as well. It will run in the 7's without a doubt!
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glad I could help as well. That's all I intended was to show that pulley swaps aren't a good first mod. They create more heat. To unlock the real potential of the motor it would be wise to rack up on cooling mods. Then when you pulley swap, this thing will scream!
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tried a little higher but ended up starting to spin through first. little lower and it bogged hard.
the thing that got me excited was being able to hook hard, and have no boost limiting at all, all the way through first gear and just have it PULLLLLL
oh man thats a very new feeling.
and i likes it!
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3000-3500 all night.
tried a little higher but ended up starting to spin through first. little lower and it bogged hard.
the thing that got me excited was being able to hook hard, and have no boost limiting at all, all the way through first gear and just have it PULLLLLL
oh man thats a very new feeling.
and i likes it!
tried a little higher but ended up starting to spin through first. little lower and it bogged hard.
the thing that got me excited was being able to hook hard, and have no boost limiting at all, all the way through first gear and just have it PULLLLLL
oh man thats a very new feeling.
and i likes it!
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