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Old 05-13-2012, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bratboy0007
My car did make that much torque I dont understand what the confusion is all about? My tuner made something like 439 tq with less mods than me. I'm nate BTW lol

But your all right who said it dropped rapidly it was also uncorrected #s
No one's confused or trying to call you a liar bro. There's a pretty good reason why people doubt that you made 460wtrq even on e85.... that's because aside from yours, no one has ever seen a stock turbod lnf make that much wtrq nor is the turbo really supposed to be able to support that.

Am I saying that your graph doesn't support your power claims? No of course not, I never saw the graph so how could any of us, but I am saying that is very unusual and maybe, just maybe something funky is up with that dyno with how it reads.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm VERY curious to see what this dyno graph looks like though. Post it up when you get a chance as to shoot down the nay sayers..
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lnf+bolt ons+ E85 mehh....
Old 05-13-2012, 12:47 PM
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i guess you guys missed it where he said the numbers were uncorrected...

i'm sure the car makes awesome power. but you should use corrected numbers from now on.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
i guess you guys missed it where he said the numbers were uncorrected...

i'm sure the car makes awesome power. but you should use corrected numbers from now on.
Pretty much. Or state it in the OP
Old 05-13-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by terry11
Dude your car is nastyyyyyy looking.
Thank you! Appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
No one's confused or trying to call you a liar bro. There's a pretty good reason why people doubt that you made 460wtrq even on e85.... that's because aside from yours, no one has ever seen a stock turbod lnf make that much wtrq nor is the turbo really supposed to be able to support that.

Am I saying that your graph doesn't support your power claims? No of course not, I never saw the graph so how could any of us, but I am saying that is very unusual and maybe, just maybe something funky is up with that dyno with how it reads.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm VERY curious to see what this dyno graph looks like though. Post it up when you get a chance as to shoot down the nay sayers..
I no longer have my sheet. My dyno was well over a year ago at a local dyno day, and within that time I moved and no clue where my sheet wound up. I guess I didn't know just how important or impressive my #s were or I would of kept it lol. I'm assuming OP Is talking about seeing our tuners graph anyway whose numbers are similar to mine because I never showed him mine and our tuner is the same Guy.?
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
i guess you guys missed it where he said the numbers were uncorrected...

i'm sure the car makes awesome power. but you should use corrected numbers from now on.
Agreed, I remember it looking like a mountain straight up than straight down it definitely doesn't hold power throughout.. but I should have gotten corrected #s lol it would be much more believeable. (I wanted to keep uncorrected that day in hopes of winning highest HP 4 Banger). :thumbsup: didn't happen Anyway ......:-/
Old 05-13-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
i guess you guys missed it where he said the numbers were uncorrected...

i'm sure the car makes awesome power. but you should use corrected numbers from now on.
Uncorrected or not, there shouldn't be a 80-100wtrq (21-27%) disparity over common wtrq numbers for his setup between the 2 even at his altitude and not have it drastically effect his whp numbers (which it didn't seeing that he's making 355whp). Maybe there's a rediculously quick high spike? I don't know... Hense me asking to see his dyno sheet just to see what it looks like.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Uncorrected or not, there shouldn't be a 80-100wtrq (21-27%) disparity over common wtrq numbers for his setup between the 2 even at his altitude and not have it drastically effect his whp numbers (which it didn't seeing that he's making 355whp). Maybe there's a rediculously quick high spike? I don't know... Hense me asking to see his dyno sheet just to see what it looks like.
hes, already explained why he has a gigantic spike....
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Its a cool number to see on paper but is doing almost nothing except stressing the car and aggravating wheel spin. Plus the spike is probably happening at or below 3500rpm. By 4k u are down to ~400tq and slowly falling.

What clutch are u running?
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
Its a cool number to see on paper but is doing almost nothing except stressing the car and aggravating wheel spin. Plus the spike is probably happening at or below 3500rpm. By 4k u are down to ~400tq and slowly falling.

What clutch are u running?
Good point. And currently on my third stock clutch at just shy of 30k miles. To my surprise they keep replacing it under warranty so i plan on riding that out as long as I can. I'm sure they will void me soon...
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
hes, already explained why he has a gigantic spike....
lol.. did he? Didn't look like it to me.

Anyways, anyone questioning his numbers wasn't doing so to turn this into some sort of pissing match ESPECIALLY between anyone that hasn't seen the dyno graph, which we of course have not. They are simply unusually high torque numbers, no matter what altitude or correction factor (or lack there of). It's pretty logical to question something so far off from the "norm".
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Originally Posted by bratboy0007
Good point. And currently on my third stock clutch at just shy of 30k miles. To my surprise they keep replacing it under warranty so i plan on riding that out as long as I can. I'm sure they will void me soon...
They keep replacing it under warranty? Wow that's pretty amazing... and awesome! Most other dealers would tell you to go screw. lol
Old 05-13-2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
They keep replacing it under warranty? Wow that's pretty amazing... and awesome! Most other dealers would tell you to go screw. lol
I know first time my clutch started slipping I took it in expecting a huge bill at the end, they called me back to pick it up had me and to my surprise just handed me my key and let me go. Second time they did ask a few more questions up front and I never denied anything still covered it lol. Last time which was less than 2 months ago, I brought it to a different dealer closer to my new place, again a lot if questions up front I told the truth it was covered...

Funny thing is I put a flex fuel badge on my trunk, a tech asked me this car came flex fuel? I never thought they did. I replied it didn't come flex fuel but I tuned it to run e85...he just laughs and says its a nice car man ....lol
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Originally Posted by bratboy0007
I know first time my clutch started slipping I took it in expecting a huge bill at the end, they called me back to pick it up had me and to my surprise just handed me my key and let me go. Second time they did ask a few more questions up front and I never denied anything still covered it lol. Last time which was less than 2 months ago, I brought it to a different dealer closer to my new place, again a lot if questions up front I told the truth it was covered...

Funny thing is I put a flex fuel badge on my trunk, a tech asked me this car came flex fuel? I never thought they did. I replied it didn't come flex fuel but I tuned it to run e85...he just laughs and says its a nice car man ....lol
lol! You're pretty fortunate to have not 1 but 2 pretty lax dealers close to you.

****, my local dealer gave me a hard time about my trans mounts and dp (not even knowing anything else that was done to the car) when I went in to get my steering column replaced. They straight up wouldn't touch the car and even threated to void my warranty.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
lol! You're pretty fortunate to have not 1 but 2 pretty lax dealers close to you.

****, my local dealer gave me a hard time about my trans mounts and dp (not even knowing anything else that was done to the car) when I went in to get my steering column replaced. They straight up wouldn't touch the car and even threated to void my warranty.
I am lucky I admit. And sounds like your dealer is full of jerks sorry man. To threaten to void your warranty, especially when you took it in for something your mods have nothing to do with is just stupid. I'm unsure if they can get into trouble for covering me or not but, the last and most recent time the service manager said it basically comes down to him they will not even question anything if "he" himself doesn't bring it up ....I tend to try n at least "shoot the ****" with the service manager before I leave it there. I guess it helps. Lol.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
lol.. did he? Didn't look like it to me.
yeah

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But your all right who said it dropped rapidly it was also uncorrected #s
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Agreed, I remember it looking like a mountain straight up than straight down it definitely doesn't hold power throughout.. but I should have gotten corrected #s lol it would be much more believeable.
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i'll race ya bratboy and show you what 460+ftlbs actually looks like. lol
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
i'll race ya bratboy and show you what 460+ftlbs actually looks like. lol
Lol you bully!
Old 05-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
yeah
yeah.. did that really explain it for you? Good for you brotha.. :
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Originally Posted by bratboy0007
Lol you bully!
lol no waaaay

Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
yeah.. did that really explain it for you? Good for you brotha.. :
yes. him saying that he's tuned for a huge low end spike tells me two things, powerband sucks. and the chart of an uncorrected dyno will read quite high for this setup.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
lol no waaaay



yes. him saying that he's tuned for a huge low end spike tells me two things, powerband sucks. and the chart of an uncorrected dyno will read quite high for this setup.
I've never seen a 25psi lnf tune spike nearly that high even uncorrected but ehh... whatev.... something's obviously funky

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Ok sorry to start all the drama with this ****
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
ugh, that ac misconception is from the 80's, with today's cars and small 4 bangers you only loose 5 hp max.
Ya on a n/a car I know for a fact that ac units have a clutch that inguages when its on it causes my can to misfire everytime under WOT and that's what lost me power but ill have plenty more of them soon enough e85 is so sweet ;D
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