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Old 09-08-2008, 04:18 PM
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lol guess someone off the slowbus missed the part of moving on?
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Alright back on topic

Lets get a list of what is needed for a high 14

Intake
2.4 intake manifold
Header
D/P
No bigger than 2.5 inch exhaust
tune
engine and tranny mounts
better tires
lower tire pressure
weight reduction (150lbs or more)
drag bags (maybe spring rubber, but I can't find what I saw once)
Good driver (2.3 or less 60'

Would that do it?


i am almost there without half of that
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
lol guess someone off the slowbus missed the part of moving on?
nah i've never ridden in your car.

don't be a dick to 2.2 guys because you have an almighty 2.0

oh and the joke is "short bus"
Old 09-08-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jbenso4
i am almost there without half of that
Yes you are, but until someone does it, i won't count anyone in or out. A lot of it has to do with conditions and driver error. Hell my car was an easy 15.7 at the track but I couldn't get below 15.97
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Ive never mentioned anything about my 2.0 being anything high and mighty over the 2.2. gotta get the facts straight before the bullshit leaves the catapolt
And back onto the quickest all motor 2.2s before the next louse gets derailed again...
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Alright back on topic

Lets get a list of what is needed for a high 14

Intake
2.4 intake manifold
Header
D/P
No bigger than 2.5 inch exhaust
tune
engine and tranny mounts
better tires
lower tire pressure
weight reduction (150lbs or more)
drag bags (maybe spring rubber, but I can't find what I saw once)
Good driver (2.3 or less 60'

Would that do it?
Add cams to that and I think there is the potential for a high 14. The good driver is of course key. If they could nail a 2.0 60' I think the ET would be pretty impressive.

I wish I was a good driver.
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What do you guys think a 2.2 with K&N intake, ported lsj header (stock exhaust), and 2.4 manifold would do with street tires?

I definitely don't want to walk away with 16's.

I'd be happy with 15's, anyone think I got a chance?
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what about adding a throttle body to that list with a tune would it help or no?
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Originally Posted by Sentry
What do you guys think a 2.2 with K&N intake, ported lsj header (stock exhaust), and 2.4 manifold would do with street tires?

I definitely don't want to walk away with 16's.

I'd be happy with 15's, anyone think I got a chance?
i did my 15.2 with CAI street tires and exhaust running on 93.. i would put you around a mid 15 but the waether has to be good
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Originally Posted by jbenso4
i am almost there without half of that
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. But yeah youre only about 300lbs away from 14's.




07: yeah the larger LE5 throttle body would most likely help, how much is debateable, since the manifold is the biggest restriction. What I am trying to find out is what is the difference between the 06-07 and 08 LE5 intakes, I dont have early style intakes to compare with, I really dont wanna buy two intakes even though I can just return the one I dont use.

I dont intend on hitting the track until I am sure I should hit 14's. Just collecting parts and throwing around ideas right now.

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Originally Posted by Maven
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. But yeah youre only about 300lbs away from 14's.




07: yeah the larger LE5 throttle body would most likely help, how much is debateable, since the manifold is the biggest restriction. What I am trying to find out is what is the difference between the 06-07 and 08 LE5 intakes, I dont have early style intakes to compare with, I really dont wanna buy two intakes even though I can just return the one I dont use.

I dont intend on hitting the track until I am sure I should hit 14's. Just collecting parts and throwing around ideas right now.
I may or may not get to the track in the next month with my LE5 Throttle Body. It pulls like crazy up top.
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Is it anything you can mill out like the SS's or is it plastic? Im not too up to date on my other manifolds.
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
Is it anything you can mill out like the SS's or is it plastic? Im not too up to date on my other manifolds.
It's all plastic. Someone really need to try the 2.4 Manifold on an 08. There is no reason it shouldn't work
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Has there been any major modifications to the motor that anyone knows of that it wouldnt work?
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No one knows cause no one has tested it.

I promise they didn't change the mounting points for the 08 intake manifold.

It has to be the same or they would have had to redesign a lot. Which didn't happen.

THe MAP sensor might need to be honed out a little like on the 07 cars
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I've heard that the 2.4 TB robs more power than is worth. Where would you find one anyways?
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i heard that too. i want to take off my 2.4l intake mani
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Originally Posted by jbenso4
i heard that too. i want to take off my 2.4l intake mani
I said throttle body, not intake mani.

And really you didn't feel any gains with that intake mani?
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i do up top but noithing significant. once i got the tune i am not sure if anything benefited from it, but i went to the track and ran my quickest time without it. put it on and nothing changed. the only time i feel it is when i downshift at seventy mph. not interested in going 90 mph all the time though i want the power downlow
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The 2.4L intake manifold works on the '08s and should give the exact same power increase(assuming youre not an '08 XFE)

The whole "08 thing that everyone talks about in regards to the 2.4 mani is actually a big misunderstanding and noone that Ive seen really knows wtf they are talking about they are just quoting CED. What do I mean?:

Well the 07-08 L61 both use the exact same intake manifold. They didnt redesign the L61 intake for '08 afaik. so why wouldnt it work/why would it offer different results??

WELL..........because the '08 LE5 manifold is different. The 06-07 LE5 manifold isnt the same as the 08 LE5 manifold. No ones tested the 08 LE5 manifold yet.

Ive got one of each coming this week(cant check 'em out till at least next week though since I ve got no money, so I wont be able to tear into the boxes without the parts mgr tearing into my ass.
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Originally Posted by jbenso4
i heard that too. i want to take off my 2.4l intake mani
if i was rich i would do a before and after. Hell Maybe just maybe I'll try both of them at the track. The 2.4 TB for sure robs a little power down low, but up top it's lot a banshee.

Now if there is in fact an increase above 4k like I feel then on a drag strip it is worth it.
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Originally Posted by Maven
The 2.4L intake manifold works on the '08s and should give the exact same power increase(assuming youre not an '08 XFE)

The whole "08 thing that everyone talks about in regards to the 2.4 mani is actually a big misunderstanding and noone that Ive seen really knows wtf they are talking about they are just quoting CED. What do I mean?:

Well the 07-08 L61 both use the exact same intake manifold. They didnt redesign the L61 intake for '08 afaik. so why wouldnt it work/why would it offer different results??

WELL..........because the '08 LE5 manifold is different. The 06-07 LE5 manifold isnt the same as the 08 LE5 manifold. No ones tested the 08 LE5 manifold yet.

Ive got one of each coming this week(cant check 'em out till at least next week though since I ve got no money, so I wont be able to tear into the boxes without the parts mgr tearing into my ass.
whats that sopost to mean? whats wrong with xfe's ?
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i am going to the track right now for the first time since my tune....will post time
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Good luck.
Old 09-10-2008, 06:11 PM
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ilovecars, it doesn "mean" anything theres nothing "wrong" with the XFE's, its just that they come with a different calibration(tune) from the factory and they may not respond the same way to the 2.4 Manifold.


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