i got a tranny tune and ill recommend that since the settings are very flexible (different pressure at different amount of throttle and so on)

 

Yep I remove my shiftplus after the tune since I dont need it anymore.

 

the shift kit is good for a 2.2...but if u have a 2.4 very pointless when u can tune..IMO

 

QFT.
If I had an auto I would just tune it.

 

Nothing like:

• Premature Transmission Wear
• Sloppy shifts after 6 months of use
• Eventual transmission failure
• Firming line pressure only to end up removing the product due to issues with daily driveability.

The TCM hates this thing. My local dealership last summer had three cars roll in due to this product and they were all denied warranty repairs. Do yourself a favor and remove it before you cause more damage.

 

sounds like a personal problem.....how about getting a tranny cooler

 

LOL!! A tranny cooler? That's not going to fix the sloppy shifts at the end. The failures had nothing to do with temperature. It had to do with the adjusting of line pressure and the absolute destruction this product causes to a cobalt/ion's tranny. The hard shifting causes premature wear to all the components and the transmission even after the product has been disabled/removed could not recover. Nothing like fixing a $1500 transmission because of a "shift kit" on a car that can't even break out of the 16's. If you really want to do something for the transmission, leave it alone.

 

i gotta agree...your the first person who's reported ANY kind of trouble witht he B&M shift+. Ive been running mine for about 8 months i think in stgII with no problems at all.

 

it's all over the cavy boards... read up.

 

Sorry to bring up this old post BUT increasing Line Level Pressure will NOT ruin your transmission. Thats been a pretty big myth for awhile! And before anyone wants to disprove me otherwise. Should read
http://books.google.com/books?id=31C...l=en#PPA198,M1

To learn how a slush box even works and what level pressure is.

 

You can't even consider this a shift kit if you ask me. Installing this into an automatic = autotragic.

 

I agree, it's just like those old "tranny inerceptors". Which would take the input from the ECU and output the values based on the maps in the chip. My only problem is that every application is diffrent and to come out with I would call a "universal system." Is not the route to look towards. I personaly would have to go in favor of the tune.

HOWEVER,

Some people do not have the money to buy HP Tuners or pay the local tune shop to do it. Which in case is not so bad. If the transmission is shifting hard, it is not bad at all. Infact, it can increase the life of the transmission. Just other factors get thrown in there and thats when stuff gets destroyed, and it's not even the mod's fault!

All in all, I would not say this kit is bad. As long as you service your car when it's supposed to be serviced. Then it should be fine. See alot of people neglect servicing the vechical then turn around and say this mod made my tranmission fly into the trunk. Which yes, due to the hard shifting would maybe cause it to do that. (Yes I know its an exaggeration.) But really the mod was working perfect doing what it was supposed to be doing and the lack of maintainance was at fault.

 

im confused exactly what kind of damage this mod could even cause and how? i mean POSSIBLY more tq on the axles since the shift is so much faster and the power doesnt have as much time to be transferred, but the stock axles are the same ones on a 2.0, and they dont see too many problems until the 230-240HP + slicks/bad wheelhop range

 

Can we please merge this thread with at least one of the other two big Shift+ threads? I'm subscribed to those two and it's really hard to keep goddamn track of all of these.

PLEASE SEARCH IN THE FUTURE. PLEASE!

 

Well thats what line level pressure is... How fast the internal clutch engages and holds it. So a tighter hold on the mesh gears means less slippage which in turn improves transmision life.

 

this totally doesnt answer my question though. already knew how it helps the transmission, but im asking how it suppsedly hurts the transmission

 

**** dude, I can't even tell you how long I've had mine, around 30k miles i think. It's been on stg II the entire time and my shifting hasn't diminished one bit.

 

Like I said before, I don't think it would hurt the tranny. I think it's people neglect to service the transmission.

 

wow seriously? were you driving hard too?

 

ive done the same. only about 15,000 miles, but about 90% city driving, stgII all the time. if i ever turn it off, it feels like somethings wrong cause ive gotten so used to it

 

yea i run st 1 all the time.....it just feels wierd without it now.....ive gotten so use to it......

 

Mines been in now for almost 15,000 miles and I have ZERO issues with it at all. I can flip out of stage 2 to stage 1 when the wife's in the car and turn it off when I have to take my mom someplace and then flip it right baack on afterwards.

I've never heard of anyone having a problem with this mod.

 

Sorry for the late pics, I know a few people asked for them been very busy and just got my car back from the body shop.




I hope everyone can see where it is with the pictures I supplied. I also used double sided tape I got from RadioShack for like $3 and works pretty good, just the silicone housing around the controller is pretty slick so you need to clean the crap out of it with rubbing alcohol.