Thats what I am starting to think. I have talked with several people about my symptoms and even the shop that I had look at it after I did the install said it was likely a weak pressure plate.

 

red isnt normal. not even close.
now hes gonna get another fwd!
i bought a SS bike instead.

 

I personally hated the stock clutch feel. Way to squishy for my liking. The firmer pressure was more than welcome for me. To each his own I guess.

Victory is definitely not the normal guy at all.

 

Thanks guys, I feel much better now.

Now I wonder how I talk the wife out of her parking spot , in the garage.

 

I should have created a poll from the start !

After going through the many pro's and cons, it seems like my search can be narrowed down to:
Spec (3+) and Exedy Hyper Single !

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you don't carry one for us 2.0s.

 

exedy hyper single > all

 

whats the difference between the stage 3 and stage 3 +
sorry about thread jacking but i look for a much stiffer clutch then our stock . my buddy had a gto procharged with an excedy i dont know what stage but it was stiff i want a little lighter then that

 

In most any car it takes a while for the revs to drop. It has something to do with fuel efficiency. It actually takes less fuel to let it rev down slow than if the engine cut out everytime you let off the gas, no to mention ease of drivability and shifting... It doesnt really relate to the flywheel.

 

ok.... can someone compile a list of clutches that actually fit with no issues?

 

So with this Exedy stg 3+ clutch, You can hammer through the gears with no slipping at all. Also, why is it important to get a new flywheel with a new clutch?

 

the 3 is a puck style disk, more aggressive "pick up"

the 3+ is a solid surface disk, it'll hold more power then a puck style, and be less "grabby"

 

Like I said before the Exedy kit somes with a flywheel. It can only be used with the flywheel it comes with, and it fits/works perfectly.

When you get a new clutch you should at least resurface the flywheel if you're going to reuse it so the clutch has a fresh surface to break into.

 

From the tiny research I learned that our stock flywheel is heavy as hell. An aluminium flywheel would be a great choice and result in smoother/quicker shifts.

Exedy's flywheel is not made from aluminium, but the kit is still lighter that the stock one.

Buying the Spec Stage III+ and the corresponding Spec aluminium flywheel would be ideal considering its total weight, but there is no deniying that Exedy's reputation/popularity under those who have upgraded to this clutch is very good. It seems to hold better under extreme/racing circumstances.

I'm gonna have to make a choice before the end of the week, because my clutch is slipping worse by the day.

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Hmm On a scale from 1-10. How hard is it to do yourself and do you need any specail tools. About how long also. 1 being easy and 10 being hard,

 

If you know wtf you're doing everything is easy.

This concerns one of the most important drivetrain parts, so it's not advisable to expermiment with it.
Replacing the gearbox will run you over 2500$ (parts and labour), so you better make sure installation of the new clutch + flywheel is done right the first time.

I won't take any chances. I will let an experienced mech install it for me.

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Well my friend is a gm certified mech but he said he is never done one on our cars.

 

Heh heh, that's why I said EXPERIENCED mech
if he has installed numerous clutches and flywheels on other cars, he should be able to handle it. After all it's not a Bugatti.

Most (myself included) see themselves as a mech around this board, but there are certain things that only the real deal can handle. Replacing the clutch and flywheel is one of them imo.

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Well just guesstimating, how much will it cost for someone to install it.

 

I have done all but one of the clutch jobs and tranny replacements in my garage on jackstands. It's not rocket science, but it is rather involved. You will need a motor support, 29mm axle nut, compressor/air gun, regular sockets/ratchets/wrenches/universals/extensions, and a hell of a lot of patience. The subrframe has to come out, the motor has to be supported, and most of the front suspension has to be moved/unbolted.

The first time was on a buddy's lift and recorded over 15 hours. The last time I was solo on jackstands in my garage and I had the tranny dropped in 3 hours, went to sleep, got up early to drove 4.5-5 hours to Atlanta to pick up the tranny and then 4.5-5 hours back, and then I installed all in 4 hours all by myself and was crusing by 9:00PM that night.

The cost for the labor from GM would be $750 as they did one of the ClutchMasters screw-up clutches, and after that they never touched my car again.

 

Most shops are gonna quote you around 8 1/2 hours of labor for the clutch. I would look for a performance shop that deals with our cars. At the very least, go to like AAMCO or some transmission specialist. I would probably avoid stealerships unless you know the people who work there and wanna pony up the extra cash.

 

seriously consider the Centerforce DFX, its cheaper than the exedy and can withstand the same amount of abuse but is easier on your left leg. LOL.

 

I just ordered an EXedy from TH. After reading on the forums here is my conclusions.
1) No one has had any problems with the Exedy Hypersingle
2) Exedy makes the OEM clutch so it has the advantage of lots of testing and experience from building the OEM
3) Centerforce is an attractive price, but it's untested, so it could have problems or issues
4) I have read multiple threads with problems on Spec, Clutchmaster, Bully ect.

When it comes down to it, a large part of the investment is going to be installation in labor costs, just one problem that requires more time or labor is going to eat up any possible saving in the price of the parts, so I hedging my bet and getting the Exedy hoping it will be the best chance of problem free success.

 

the only problem i see with the hypersingle is when on decel right before dfco kicks in, you will hear an odd noise. this is the clutch itself. sounds like gears smashing together in the tranny. it is very touchy, but you get used to it. it grabs like a bitch too

 

I have had a few customers install the Centerforce DFX and love the way it feels and hooks up. I am not going to brag about it because it just hasn't been out there long enough yet.
I hope they find the thread and give their input.
I am still looking for someone to try out the Centerforce DF series clutch. Its way more than enough for the common stage II upgrades and yet isn't too expensive.