just be careful putting the tranny back after the new one is in...i suggest you use a tranny jack and not just some other jack that way when you take it out at an angle (since the tranny jack has the hooks to keep it from sliding off) then you can secure it with the safety ropes....then you can put it right back in at that angle and hopefully make it easier for the splines to line up....

 

aight well hopefully it all goes well he has two lifts and im sure he has a tranny jack but if he dont then idk i guess we will see. you work at a shop yourself???

 

in between dealerships right now...but yeah as i stated above.....I'm a GM tech of 3 years....5 if you count when i was working there while in tech school.....good luck....

 

wanna come do my clutch? haha i dont feel like doing it, lol jk

 

well you think you could do it for me, id rather have somebody who has been working on gms for a while. if you could how much would you charge????

 

btw LSJ is a Spec stage 2+ and Fidanza flywheel a good combo, i noticed before you stated your clutchmasters and that flywheel werent

 

i have 25000 on mine no problems except if i baby my clutch for a while it will slip the frist time i launch from the line but that is normal the dealer tells me

 

I really would but being thats its fwd I'm not willing to do it without a lift, sry.....if you get stuck that day PM me on here and I'll hop on and help ya out...I also have a brief write up on here somewhere bc a guy wanted to know how.....ehh, search my posts I think its under the thread about AM throwout bearings.....good luck, its really not comlicated just a pain in the ass.....

 

yeah i started that thread if it helps you find it, actually ill post the link

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drivetrain-79/aftermarket-throw-out-bearing-90533/

 

aight guys thanks i dont think it should take any longer then 8 hours. ill let you guys know what happens.

 

thanks good to know...actually Kaiso did in the other thread and I researched it more...I'm also in contact with CM to see if this mess is really true and if I go with a different flywheel and replace the bearing for a fourth time will it stop happening.. I just wish they'd come out with their AM one already, I'm tired of waiting, if I get too tired of waiting I'm going to slap the centerforce clutch and fw combo in there that crate engine depot sells and call it a day....Rideemlow: trust me, you'll be alright..its going back in that you have to be somewhat careful with and if you have any...any trouble at all, then hop on here and I'll guide ya through w/e......

it'll take ya around 8 the first time...I replaced the bearing (didnt mess with the clutch so I didnt have to align the clutch with the tool or anything) in 4.5 hours this past time......

 

well i know i need to replace the clutch disc because when they tore it apart and put the release bearing in i saw the disc and it was in bad condition. that was a 1000 miles ago too so yeah.

 

So you did some more research. What did you find out about the CM clutch and fidanza fly? Did they fix the problem? I know that when I bought my Spec 3 clutch they advised me not to use the fidanza flywheel and go with there full combo. I was also told that from a performance shop that swears by Spec to do the same. It was highly recommended to not mix and match. The reason being that when you mix and match it is hard for a company to R&D every combo. From what I understand about the Spec 3/fly combo (which is listed as part#-2 on there sight) is it removes the self adjustment which seems to be the problem with the CM/fidanza combo. Our clutches being hydrolic have a very small tolerance and that is what seems to destroy the Slave /throwout and cause the clutch to fail and not disengage.

cheeers

 

could this rattle be related to the TSB that came out a few years back? I had to have my 04 in for this issue of rattling... they ended up putting some retainer clips in as it was due to gears rattling together during light load? I can't remember for certain if that was what they did as it was a while ago. This obviously wouldn't explain the rattling at idle though....

 

cm hasnt given me a solution yet...but its a known problem not just for our cars...lol, we should've known better apparently before we even paired them

http:// www . srtforums. com/forums/f194/poll-clutch-problems-fidanza-flywheel-paired-cm-clutch-314770/

remove the spaces for the link

 

Seems to still be a problem. I should have taken pics of the clutch, plate, flywheel and bearing. I was surprised that I could even get the car to move when I saw the destruction. I was so sick and tired of trying to deal with CM that I told my mechanic to toss them. I then wrote a letter to CM stating that I would never buy or recommend a single product of theirs and would make it my mission to spread my dealings with them around any forum I could. (SRT, Redline, cobalt and mustang forums)

It amasses me how CM would not back there product and when I talked to them over the phone I got a sense of we done really care from them.

If you have not installed it I would get rid of it and either get a Spec 3/fly combo (Part # -2).

http://www.specclutch.com/

or Exidy hyper single clutch/fly combo.

and don't forget to replace the Slave cyl/bearing whether it needs it or not.

Clutch Masters FTL.

 

lol, I gotcha....well I'll probably get a CM flywheel and put a new release in it....but next time I have my tranny out I'll take a good look at my clutch disc bc the way I keep reading is that that combo is supposed to eat the clutch disc alive, mine looked pretty good from what I could tell wihtout removing the pressure plate to take a close look...but I'll defiantely have a second look...now I just have to find a way to swing $90 for a new release and $300 for a CM flywheel, yippie....I love cars......money pits, its a good thing my gf lives in FL or there would be no way to afford this sh*t.......If my disc is ate to sh*t'm going to go with either the Spec or the Centerforce combo that CED sells...the reason I might go with the Centerforce is bc it was designed in conjunction with GM....I know this bc there used to be a special bulliten that my district service manager told me about that in certain cases ppl were burning out clutches with just GM Stage 2's with other GMPP parts on it (i.e. honed mani. and exhaust)...and GM's solution, or rather a sit back and wait approach, was to say that Centerforce was putting out a clutch to solve this.....this was about 6 months ago when I read this, and now its finally released, so we'll c, but I've heard nothing but good things about the Spec clutches for our cars so I'll probably play it safe and get that......I'll keep ya and everyone else posted on what/ if anything CM has to say other than what they've told me so far.....

 

wait so would a Spec stage 2+ work with a fidanza flywheel or no? im afraid i put it in and everything and it breaks or something

 

X2...I have 44K on mine and it is the stock clutch and I am staged with no problems.

 

not sure if it will or not...CM claims that for our cars being hydraulic that their are close tolerances and that if you buy one brand of clutch then you buy the same brand fw...thats why the centerforce and the exedy for our cars are sold with the fw...see

CM doesn't even recommend stock fw usage with their clutch......So I'm guessing you might want to sell your fidanza and play it safe by buying a spec fw, or ask more ppl with the Spec and fidanza bc as I said I'm not sure and maybe the tolerances are within range with that combo.....you'll proabably be alright bc I can't imagine Fidanza designing something that doesn't work with someone else's clutch since I don't think they make a clutch for our cars (they do make clutches though, just haven't rleased one for the Balt' SS).....hope everything works out though...harsh lesson for me though....thats what the forum is here for though to do research...see what works and what doesn't...hate to be one of the guinea pigs though, lol........CM should had really disclosed this since it was a known problem though and offered a clutch and flywheel combo like other companies..(they aren't a supporting vendor here though so its not vendor bashing either, lol)......

 

let me ask another question, i laid the fw down and put the disc on it and put the pressure plate on top and it doenst sit flush on top of the fw, like theres a 1 inch gap between the fw and pressure plate, is that normal?

 

I took this pic off another thread but this is what its supposed to look like....

 

like i wont be able to put the bolts into mine unless i give pressure, ill take a pic tomorrow and show you wat i mean by that

 

it is best to go with a clutch/flywheel combo that was made by the same manufacturer such as Spec, Centerforce and Exiedy. The reason being that they are made to work together and you will have less problems. It really pisses me off that CM is still selling these clutches.

 

dam so you guys say i need to change my fidanza for a spec fw?