CSuttie

so the ss/sc and tc's use a racing transmission, just wondering if anyone knows how significant the difference in gear ratios are, from the standard getrag?

im wondering if its worthwhile to troll the junkyards and chance finding an sc racing tranny to drop in my car with new mounts.

steddy2112

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1st off, it isn't a racing tranny per se, just different.

2nd, It has taller gears than the F23 which IMO are already too long

3rd, the bolts to the flywheel are different, f23 has 6 f 35 has 8

4th, search is you friend

alleycat58

I'll confirm/elaborate some of what steddy said:

1) Not remotely close to a racing tranny. Actually, LOL, it was originially designed to be used for towing, hence why 1st gear is so short.

2) Personal preference, I don't mind the F35 gearing at all. It's a 2-gear road course car which makes for easy shifting.

3) Yes, you're looking at a TON of time, money, and headaches to make it work. You're better off sticking with what you have.

4) I concur.

CSuttie

hehe, gm refers to it as a 5 speed racing tranny in the catologue :P so i guess i should stick with what i got then?

alleycat58

I'd stick with what you have. There's nothing "racing" about the f35. It's just the same stock tranny transplanted over from a SAAB 9-3.

CSuttie

thx for the advice. All I know is that when I get a bit more power I wouldn't mind a racier tranny. Particularly with a wider 1st gear. The first gear and clutch In my car is like its for a beginner on stick. Did you know that you can not only let out the clutch w.o gas, but u can even start it in 1st w.o stalling! LOL

steddy2112

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On a level road you can do about 25 miles an hour without touching the gas.

alleycat58

Um.....ummmmmmmmmmmmmm.......EVERY street car is supposed to be like that. If it's not like that, you need a driver mod or the car isn't streetable. Did you know I could start my boyfriend's car with a Stage 3+ clutch without touching the gas? Totally normal.

CSuttie

I know! Haha I found that out cause I had to try it cause my my cuz's cavy was the same! And I found out u can start it in gear cause my Balt was shipped with a faulty clutch which delaminated on the highway LOL. Took me a minute to find out I had no clutch, but before that I tryes starting it again with the clutch pedal in while in first, the engine stsaryed and I started rolling! Haha ever since then, I've learned to drive without a clutch just in case! LOL

steddy2112

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I do it all the time in my car.


Spec stage 3+ is that streetable eh?


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Turbo06Sedan

Is it the same part # as the OEM one?

Im getting a race tranny for mine....yes, its still a 4T45-E GM FWD Auto tranny.....but its a race tranny for the little goodies done to it.

CSuttie

I've been in lots of cars htat can't start in first, or not stall w/o gas...

o3nisoaso3

MVP i think has his f23 swapped with an f35

DaREDss

i wouldnt call a tranny that barely holds over 300 hp a racing tranny.

alleycat58

Weird. I've never been in a car that COULDN'T start in first. ****, that's how 95% of people learn how to drive a manual is how to get the car rolling with using the clutch only.

CSuttie

hehe, thats how i had to learn (on my cuz's cavy )

Beck

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im running the spec stage 3+ in my F23 and its fine for daily driving. a little trickier than the stock clutch but its still easy to drive.

Sharkey

iTrader: (1)

gm parts direct does list a racing tranny, however its a european f25. no clue what gm is running it in, or any specs on it.

CSuttie

strange stuff. eh, /boxed

chevy cobalt 08

not true i accidentally started it in first gear and it stalled...especially with reverse (the stalling sounds nastier too >_<) and you cant start the car without the clutch in anyway

hmm i gotta test that out

CSuttie

err. what are you riding?

chevy cobalt 08

2008 cobalt sport 2.4L

CSuttie

really... were you facing uphill when you did this or what? cause my 07 2.4 will start in gear and just start rolling

chevy cobalt 08

no i was in a parking lot. the car stalls if you dump the clutch in first. (no need to go slow if your in or going into neutral) if you want it to start going without stalling you gotta be really slow on the clutch till it fully engages. but only on level ground. hills you need to tap the gas a little

CSuttie

im not talking about dumping the clutch. im talking about starting the car with first gear engaged. without touching the clutch.