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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Angry Tranny dying??

Sometimes when sitting at a stop light, Ill try to shift into and it won't go into gear. If I let off the clutch a bit it will usually go in. Yesterday, when it wouldn't go into 1st I let off the clutch and it still didn't do anything. While trying to put it in 1st I engaged and disengaged the clutch several times before it eventually went in. This problem happened all day. All of the rest of the gears seemed fine with the exception of not being able to get into 3rd gear once or twice.
Now the big issue came when I was downshifting. From 4th through 2nd, when I hit the clutch to downshift, it made a small grinding noise until it was fully in gear. Occasionally I couldn't downshift into second.. When downshifting to first, holding the clutch in I could hear a grind till I let off the clutch... Is my tranny dying?
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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probably your roll pin opposed to the transmission
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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possibly a bent roll pin (tension pin ) for shift linkage.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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This doesn't sound like the roll pin.

does the shifter feel loose or sloppy

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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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buddy ive snapped 8 roll pins blown up a total of 6 trannys, this sounds like a tension pin that is bent.... Only time ive heard this happening and it wasnt the linkage tension pin, it was linkage it self or a bad t.b, bu tmost likly a roll pin
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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Ive been through enough roll pins to know aswell man. He is saying that by clutching in and out it is getting him in gear. If it was the roll pin then that would not change anything.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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ok So think if he can push the clutch in and out, then that means he is moving linkage, so thereofre it will cause the pin to move around so it could possibly be the pin. Im not saying it is it, but im saying its the more then likly possibility
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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its worth a look. a $5 part is much better then a couple thousand for transmission repairs.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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if you need a tranny order it from schram auto bro great deals, call them tho
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by outtamymind
its worth a look. a $5 part is much better then a couple thousand for transmission repairs.
Agreed! How do I check this?

Originally Posted by Garret
This doesn't sound like the roll pin.

does the shifter feel loose or sloppy
Nah. Not really.

Another thing I noticed yesterday was when I put it in second once, it jumped out of 2nd and into neutral... Only happened once though. Isolated event maybe?
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
buddy ive snapped 8 roll pins blown up a total of 6 trannys, this sounds like a tension pin that is bent....
Yer doin it wrong
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if the shifter does not feel loose then its not roll pin
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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well what do you consider loose? I can move the shifter side to side in gear, but thats normal to me...
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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if its the roll pin then the gear should feel unreachable. Kind of like the shifter wont reach the gear if your going for first for example. also when its in neautral if the roll pin is sheared/stretched then you can move the shifter up and down and quite a bit
loose feeling is the best way i can describe it
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Garret
if its the roll pin then the gear should feel unreachable. Kind of like the shifter wont reach the gear if your going for first for example. also when its in neautral if the roll pin is sheared/stretched then you can move the shifter up and down and quite a bit
loose feeling is the best way i can describe it
1st just feels like its not there.. you try to shift into it, but you can't go up.. same with 3rd when it does it.
I went out and tinkered with it some and noticed my brake fluid reservoir was looooow. IDK if it was low enough to effect the clutch but it was low enough you couldn't see any..
With the car on and in neutral, when you start trying to put it in 1st you can hear a slight grind until it actually goes in.. I wonder if the syncro is shot??
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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whatever u do do NOT force it in gear... just start in 2nd. it should go right into first at the next light... but forcing it is just mashing the syncro's and thats a no no... check the roll pin. our trans are pretty strong. its the roll pin that makes us blow trans
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lmao.......
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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whatever u do do NOT force it in gear... just start in 2nd. it should go right into first at the next light... but forcing it is just mashing the syncro's and thats a no no... check the roll pin. our trans are pretty strong. its the roll pin that makes us blow trans
Hmk. Will definately check that later today

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lmao.......
What?

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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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just people some times man, not you......
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by terminator0723
1st just feels like its not there.. you try to shift into it, but you can't go up.. same with 3rd when it does it.
I went out and tinkered with it some and noticed my brake fluid reservoir was looooow. IDK if it was low enough to effect the clutch but it was low enough you couldn't see any..
With the car on and in neutral, when you start trying to put it in 1st you can hear a slight grind until it actually goes in.. I wonder if the syncro is shot??
Low brake fluid indicates your pads are low.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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So I attempted to replace my roll pin but had absolutely no luck! I tried to knock it out the a 3/16 punch but couldn't get it to move.. I put pressure on it and tried to wiggle the arm up and down, side to side, and turned the arm a bit... I even pulled the tranny mount out to get a little more room, and still no luck. I hit it with just the hammer itself which made the pin flush with the arm but that was all the movement I got. Any suggestions?

My tranny has been recently making a rubbing/ grinding noise when I almost have the clutch reengaged in 1st. It doesn't do it all the time, but it still does it. In. Second it makes a chirp when the clutch is almost completely engaged. The same with 3rd except it's really faint.. Could this be a bad throwout bearing?
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
just people some times man, not you......
Stop breaking all the spare trans
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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Humm this is the exact same problem I am having... although my reverse is a biatch to get into gear.. So I'm assuming maybe trans fluid so I'ma either change it or at least try to top it off.. and my clutch for the first time today felt squeeshie, and sloppy, but now is cool... im not sure clutch is stage 1 clutch not even 2 years old so dont think its the clutch could be either fluid, or bad syncrose... ima check the pin first tho never thought of that, thx for some of the points to the op.. and sorry not tryin to thread jack just a little input from my situation and yours maybe we can help each other out.. good luck dude... I'll let you know if I find out what works..
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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With 50,000 you should to a flush and fresh fluid instead of just topping it off (IIRC it's a sealed case, so it shouldn't be low unless you have a crack in the housing, in which case you have bigger fish to fry).

Squishy clutch could be the master cylinder going. I've heard a lot of people have had to replace them.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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may be related, may not be, I dont know the schematics of our manual (or many) transmissions. But here is my similar experience, sometimes I too get locked out of a gear, mostly first. What I do is just push the clutch in, put it in another gear, than go back to center, than put it in the gear i wanted, and let the clutch out, and it goes in gear. Kinda like double clutching, but i just thought it was the linkage gettin hung up... dunno if this is what your talkin about but it sounds similar to my occasional problem.
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