well just like the title says..... i was on crate engine depot and i saw that the ss/sc block and charger are cheap and i was wondering what it would take to do an engine swap \\

anythoughts?

 

ok, look at your engine then everything attached...the ecu...i think thats it

 

well g.. i could have said that ... i know about that... i was just wondering what it would take to get a ss/sc engine computer or im just better off turbo'n my car and putting on a piggy-back

 

y go to that trouble when you can get the S/C kit from GM and just pop it on. installation instructions and part numbers are all in the build book. screw a swap.

 

^ they dont have a kit for the 2.2 eco balt... there cavy kit will not work!

nor the LSJ kit

 

meh you beat me to it. all in all you would have to get the transmission and the axles from an ss/sc as well id imagine. itd probably cost you a good 7000 to do an ss/sc swap into a 2.2 apposed to 4000 for a decent turbo buildup.

 

well price for price i dont know, you are right how much is the ecu? can you do the swap your self? honestly you are better off with the turbo kit, then save for internals and increase the psi, if you honeslty have money do the turbo good starting numbers with stock 2.2 n turbo...

 

i was wondering because a 2.0 /sc is freakin cheap 2 grand for a new engine

 

well, basically you would need new everything... no way to tune for it so it wouldn't work... new ecm, new pcm, new tranny... and you can't swap out the computer from the 2.0 to the 2.2 unless you don't care about your cluster gauge, ebrake, pretty much anything controlled by the computer

 

then i guess ill go the turbo route i dont want to get into deep...

 

It is not just as simple as putting another motor on it. You would have to swap out the computer, transmission, axles, brakes, and suspension in order for it to work correctly. It would not be a great idea to put a supercharger or turbocharger on the 2.2 because the internals are not made to take it. No offense, but the 2.2 motor was designed for a family/grandma car. Not a race car.

 

wow your way off base considering that they have a build book out for the 2.2l to bump it up to 250 with a supercharger and or turbo with a shot of no2 as your first step befor you switch out internals... so yeah offense.. go do you research...

also i do understand that its not as easy as an engine swap i was wondering more or less if its hard to come apon a ecu / pcm for a ss/sc

 

if he cant swap it out, then why is it so chep to swap honda motors?
look into a junk yard ss s/c .. you might be able to find most of the stuff you need from a crashed one..
there has to be a few around. i've already seen a totaled one come into the bodyshop at my dealer.. they sent it to the junkyard.
the junkyard might part with the front clip of a tottaled ss s/c for cheap, but who knows.
i would check this out before you make your decision. good luck!

intense has pcm's for their kits.. expensive, but they have 'em

on a side note, who says you cant put lsj internals in your 2.2? its the same block... they de-stroked the lsj from the 2.2L motor, then beefed up the internals.. i would do a little research before i bought anything

 

i told my uncle to keep an eye out for me and he said that he has gotten 2 totaled out srt4's in the last few months one being my buddy phil's " he's one of the bigger junk yards in milwaukee"

 

Putting a turbo or S/C on a 2.2l is not going to make the cobalt a racing car. THe suspension may be a little gooey, and the brakes will go out faster. But The car won't fall apart because he pushin 250 hp.
Agreed on the ECU and tranny though. The computer won't run right with a different engine, and the tranny was really designed more for daily driving than quick power, it would probably crap out on him.

 

You're comparing apples to oranges there. Hondas are easy because most of their stuff is plug and play as well as cheap to come by. Trannies will work easily with one another (manuals at least, don't know anyone that drives an automatic Honda that's done a swap). Hell, on a Honda you dont' even have to swap a full motor. SOME of their motors you can even take just the head from one and swap it to the block of another. That and ECUs are fairly interchangeable as well. Not even remotely close to what's involved with swapping newer GM motors.

If you're going to swap ANY internals I'd recommend going all-out with aftermarket. Why got with something that's "alright"???? I'm a firm believer in never doing anything half assed. If you're going to bother with boosting a 2.2, do it right and get stronger aftermarket stuff.

 

The transmission can handle a basic turbo upgrade... the internals are pretty strong, MUCH stronger that what's needed to hold the stock "power"


You can't just swap out the computer, because it controls too many things... 2.0 swap will not work right now, it just wont'.



as always, one of the more inteligent replies. great post.

 

i would only install the best... befor my cobalt i had a mustang svt 5.0 that my dad and i built as my first car but i totaled it out and they only gave me 6 grand for the car when it was clearly worth more. so i used the money to pay for school and put money down on my cobalt... so i do know how to work on an engine im just new to the " cobalt game"


thats the facts jack

 

Member Kingg5 is swapping the 2.0 into his 2.2 g5 next month

 

i would just do a turbo its cheaper faster and easier then swaping motos trans computers
and get more power out of it you can do 250 hp on the 2.2 and be safe with a swap then you have to do the stage 2 kit almost another grand

 

just sell your 2.2 buy an ss s/c and come join me on the garage crew (that is where you spend over 80% of your time working on the car 10% bitching at it 5% smoking and oh yea 5% driving then it breaks and you rinse and repeat)