which manifold can you use on the 2.2? a 01 saab 2.0 mani?

 

2003+ 2.0 Turbo ECOTEC in the Saab 9-3s

 

Yeah, a small design flaw could have caused it to happen. Im not mad at all, just gives me a chance to upgrade everything else.
if anyone could find one for me, ill buy it =P The reason i want the saab manifold is because it looks like it wont require any re-piping to the 5th injector hat. The reason why i dont want to go with an aftermarket aluminum manifold is because the throttle body port is on the side, which would not allow for my current setup to work. The saab manifold would, or looks like it would

 

sway, they aren't expensive...

Go to a Saab Dealership. They are like $160 something

 

Anything else you think im gonna need to add to this project? Im looking for 15psi here. So ~300whp. Saab Manifold, Pistons, Rods, and upgraded fuel pump. Oh and clutch. Am i missing anything here? I've got the tune software/link, and gauges i need. If i dont push it too hard, my tranny should hold for a little, but will my axles?

I would like to get this working with the current setup, meaning 5th injector. Remember, my goal here is 350+whp, so im not stopping here. It seems that if i want that power level, doing the 4 new injectors would be the way to go, but i would like to get my car running at 300 for now. Baby Steps =P

 

I would just switch to the 34's for now and forget the 5th injector crap. If Intense can tune in a crappy MAF-T on the LSJ to control 42.5's you should be able to use the more advanced SMT-6 to control the 34's on the L61.

 

this makes me worry about my car

 

Dont you max out the duty cycle of the 42's on a LSJ with a 2.8 pulley? Im gonna be pushing MUCH more power then that @ 15psi. Which would mean more fuel, so wouldnt i want something larger then a 42?

 

I agree that this is a very good application for the SMT-6. I'd rather use it to control the stock injectors than try to get HPTune to do it because of the limitations of the stock computer/MAP.

Note that the plastic used for under-hood applications is a brittle alloy. It has to be to survive the temps (softer plastics would deform). So it won't flex so much as shatter, which is what this looks like. Your comment about no smell probably rules out a fuel/air explosion. So this is simple over-inflation.

I'll talk to Alpine about the Saab intake. That should work better than fabbing up a new log manifold, since it has individual runners and has been extensively flow tested (most factory stuff is these days). It will kill a bit of bottom end torque over the long-tube plastic manifold, but will probably be worth it in the long run.

 

do the ss/sc cars have a plastic intke manifold?

 

Yeah, i would have called john, but i've been either sleeping or lounging on my couch, havent felt like being on the phone while im sick. I am getting my car over to my buddies house here this weekend to get my pistons/rods/clutch installed. He said he can do it all in about 3 days. Once thats done, the tuning starts. You think i should do like 12psi then work my way up to 15? or should i just throw in the 15lb spring and start tuning?

 

No but remember there is a supercharger that bolts up to it, not a throttle body.

 

if it was fuel puddling, then what could the outcome be if u had the saab intake? would something more dramatic happen?

 

Looking at the pictures and being that there was no smell of fuel or something burning atleast, it seems like it was more of a factory flawed manifold. Like I've said before, I have never heard of this happening because of boost pressure specifically.

 

Now please could everyone who is "judging" this in a negative way, please wait till there is HARD evidence. I showed you pictures, and i have inspected the manifold as much as i could from the hood of my car. I ran my hand in there and it was clean. No evidence of an explosion inside the manifold. now i will have it off here in a few days, hopefully by the end of this weekend and ill have better pictures. I will not lie, if there it shows evidence of a backfire then i will certainly say so. It just doesnt look like it yet.

I've already setup an appointment to get my pistons/rods/clutch installed. Its 2 weeks from now. So by then, ill should hopefully be road tuning. Im still waiting on confirmation on the Saab manifold. The manifold by venom looks pretty nice, im also going to look into that, but its kinda pricy.

 

what i was looking at was 14K posts and your still one of the only turbo 2.2L Turbobalts on here! pretty damn funny!

 

The venom manifold isn't worth the money honestly...you'd be wasting your money. The Saab Manifold is plenty.

They weren't trying to judge it necessarily, just tried to understand the possibilities of it like you were doing too at first.

 

True, but the boost pressure has a lot to do with that. Those injectors are actually capable of more than we can currently get out of them because of the fuel system design.

Actually tuning the stock PCM is much more efficient and capable of more controll because you can adjust the VE and MAF tables much more accurately. You can also bump up the MAF frequencies to handle reading the extra air.

 

Can you set the advance table to retard ignition advance as boost comes up?

 

I just talked to Saab here locally, they quoted me $322 Canadian for the 2.0 intake manifold.

EDIT the price I have there is for the plastic low boost manifold.

Turns out the high boost , cast manifold is actually $922 from the dealer, ouch.

 

Hey, slowbalt19, how's the car running? I understand you headed home Saturday night.

 

 

Do you know something I don't know about the red 2.2, or are you just hanging out eating popcorn waiting for an answer too?

 

I just talked to the local saab parts shop and they are ordering the manifold for me. If anyone else orders it, its the B207R Intake Manifold, it is cast-aluminum. Its gonna cost me $184.43. Thats for 3-4 day shipping too. IM WAYYY EXCITED. That means ill be driving most likely by end of next week, and by that time, ill have my fed tax return to get the pistons/rods/clutch done. 3 weeks... 300whp =P

 

does the saab manifold..is that a turbo mani? or a intake mani?