Let the questions begin, btw I have a thread like this on 20+ forums and am an avid injection enthusiast and will be getting a cobalt shortly...

 

which kits are easier to tune the cooling mist or snow performance

 

depends on which kit and stage you get...you really can't go wrong with any of the top companies today...I have to admit I am biased towards snow performances as per a sponsorship and I am a dealer but this thread I will try to be as honest and fair as possible...I really just like to see people running amw injection...

 

how often do you have to refill the meth and how much does the boost juice cost?

 

**** I"ve been running mine for a year now. At least finally people are catching on that it's a good thing... Snow Performance kit 2012ss FTW!!.

P.s. ... the nitro booster makes my car shoot some sick ass flames lol

 

what? lol are you using the booster with the meth or in place of it??

 

with the meth. Shot a 6-10ft flame out the back on a 2-3 shift. Dude in the vdub behind me almost **** himself.. oh no cat either

 

haha... that indeed. Finally got the car dialed in again. Not quite up to it's full 296whp tune, but close. Just waiting on one more piece to get it back. then it's off to stripping everything out of it and going turbo.

 

boost juice is about 10 a gallon but you can find meth for about 3 dollars a gallon and then mix it with distilled water and get pricing down to about 2 dollars a gallon...check local farms and speed shops...

no prob, i just love making the AA meetings bigger

sweet deal man...i ran nitromethane day in and day out for a while till my motor died on my evo...100 shot, nitromethane, meth/water mix and basic bolt ons...its fun stuff...

you use nitrobooster in 8oz to 2 qts of meth...

flames for the win...just richen car a tad up top and every time you lift off the gas major flames out the back for the catless cars...afterburn ftw...

 

I am not fully understanding all of this what is the kit for? I know some people are going to it and I found one for 305 with a controller but dont know exactly what it is/or is for. Is it safe to run with stock internals? And what is "nitrobooster"? I never herd of it. And last question is it safe to mix the 2? Sorry for all the questions I am just not too sure about all of this....

 

I have mine mounted right before the bend into the TB on the stock pipiing. and if you are running alot of timing down low, it wouldnt be a bad idea to start at 10psi.

 

Bump for some information!

 

You spray a mix of distilled water and methanol into your engine. Helps stop detonation and raises your octane higher due to the methanol. Now the snow performance kit that IU use has a progressive controller that runs off your MAss air flow signal. Convert the HZ to volts and then has a map it sends to the controller on when to turn on and when to go to full spray. I have been running this setup on my car for a while, still on stock internals and about 21000 miles on it now. 0 problems cept for the pretty blue color of the inside of the intake manifold. (lol washer fluid) Now for the nitro booster. It's a mix of nitro methane that will stay in suspension with the methanol. If used properly you can gain @30+hp from it. I use it in a bit less of a mix myself to stay a little safer, but the car ran great on it and I could tell the difference.

 

Thanks for the information it really helped alot!!!!!!

 

you're welcome man, anytime

 

so what happens if you run out of meth and you are still on your meth tune and you got wot. Do you have a switch to a light to tell you when you are low on meth

 

I always top it off when I take it out and my res is 2 gallons, but you can put a low fluid switch in that turns on a red light if you want.

 

4-6 inches is ideal but on the higher boosted cars it can be even further away...boost should be set while tuning...

saved me from typing...

depends on tune but you could damage the motor...i will only sell kits with Low Level Indicators to prevent this problem...

 

Wouldnt it be safer to run a kickass intercooling system instead? will spraying through the blower damage the rotors?

Isnt it kidof a band-aid fix for detonation? As in, you could make it go away permanently with "proper" modding, but want to cheap out and risk damage to your engine if/when the system fails and/or runs dry?

The Meth sprays at a certain boost/maf/map level correct? Well with a SC'ed system, the boost comes on so quickly that the system may not be able to immediately compensate, resulting in a burst of temporarialy uncontrolled knock. 3 seconds of 8* of knock isnt cool in my book. Can you adjust the system so it comes on sooner to prevent something of this nature from happening? Downshifts come to mind especially.

 

im looking to get a kit.........What do everyone mix into theres and where can I find everything at?

 

you will never get the cooling benefits you would with meth injection when using a intercooler...the situation you are describing can be elminated while tuning...if your knocking when downshifting there is something wrong...

I always use a 2 gallon gas tank, take one gallon of pure meth and one gallon of distilled water...

 

where can i get them products and how much?

 

5 gal;s of meth around here is @$48 and you can pick it up at speed shops. As for 8 degree of knock for 3 secs. Something is definately wrong. I maybe get .7 kr at most on a shift and thats it and it lasts for like a 1/10th of a sec

 

this maybe a stupid question but distilled water what is that just reg water?

 

Ive actually seen worse then 8* of knock on a supercharged application using meth, since the boost ramped fatser then then alky could compensate.

.7* of knock = 1 degree on gm pcm's im pretty sure.

If you get .7 that means your engine suffered from detonation. I hate knock and none of it is acceptable, especially at high boost levels. .7* can chip pistons and such just as 8* can.

Oh, another thing, will alky cause a skewed O2/WBo2 reading?