Forced Induction 101
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
So what was your point in all of that, they win alot, but the fast still remains that they are not as effecient.
The Original Statement in the context of the thread is still true.
"maximum low-rpm boost and power" compared to another brand or style of centrifugal.. not proving much here...
The Original Statement in the context of the thread is still true.
"maximum low-rpm boost and power" compared to another brand or style of centrifugal.. not proving much here...
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Originally Posted by lildudeus
i am not used to supercharges but i would love for everyone else to know its there i saw on one picture they had a blow off valve is there a way to put that on a cobalt ss 2.0L ??????????
You can install one on a S/C to make a cool noise but that's as usefull as it gets.
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Wasey, You are confusing Output with effeciency. Once again, I never said it was not a capable supercharger, I simply said that it was not as effecient as other designs at making boost at the bottom end. Shaft speed and pulley loading have to be taken into aco****.
Hp Gained - Hp to Pulley
Hp Gained - Hp to Pulley
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Wasey, You are confusing Output with effeciency. Once again, I never said it was not a capable supercharger, I simply said that it was not as effecient as other designs at making boost at the bottom end. Shaft speed and pulley loading have to be taken into aco****.
Hp Gained - Hp to Pulley
Hp Gained - Hp to Pulley
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
A Centerfugal Supercharger combines the negative qualities of both a Turbo and a Supercharger. They are the least capable at making good boost pressure low but are efficient at low pressure applications unless driven a very high speed. They make heat like a turbo but Rob Horsepower like a supercharger. So that makes them...Moderately desirable for big horsepower when compared. More for minor power adding.
A Centerfugal Supercharger combines the negative qualities of both a Turbo and a Supercharger. They are the least capable at making good boost pressure low but are efficient at low pressure applications unless driven a very high speed. They make heat like a turbo but Rob Horsepower like a supercharger. So that makes them...Moderately desirable for big horsepower when compared. More for minor power adding.
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Originally Posted by wasey13
That is incorrect... I already showed you why. Do you even know what effeciency is??
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how long did it take you to write that? i didnt take the time to read everything, so i dont know if there are any inaccuracies, but from what ive read you seem to know what youre talking about. good info, make it a sticky.
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Originally Posted by helty
how long did it take you to write that? i didnt take the time to read everything, so i dont know if there are any inaccuracies, but from what ive read you seem to know what youre talking about. good info, make it a sticky.
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how long did it take you to write that? i didnt take the time to read everything, so i dont know if there are any inaccuracies, but from what ive read you seem to know what youre talking about. good info, make it a sticky.
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Great write-up Brian, I learned a lot . As always, some people are going to take things out of context and try to hate, ... please keep on contributing to the site!.
Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Disclaimer: As with any type of Automotive Upgrade, Forced Induction is full of Grey, it's never as easy as a Black and White answer. There is always an exception to any example. The information presented in this thread is just that, basic information. It is possible to go into much further detail on the subject, which is up to you in the future. When types and styles of forced induction systems are compared it is under the condition that they are all of similar capability. It is always possible to make statements false by taking them out of context or changing the basic parameters of the discussion. When I started to boost cars I would have loved to have had a baseline of information before starting my research. That is why this is here, for you.
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Originally Posted by brandon11482
Great write-up Brian, I learned a lot . As always, some people are going to take things out of context and try to hate, ... please keep on contributing to the site!.
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some one let me know if this is true or is some one pulling my zipper....... you can hook up a intercooler with out having a turbo or supercharger. i was told that the hook up is to
run the pipe from the t/b to the cooler and put the filther on the in coming end of the cooler. this sounds ok but i'm not to sure about it
run the pipe from the t/b to the cooler and put the filther on the in coming end of the cooler. this sounds ok but i'm not to sure about it
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some one let me know if this is true or is some one pulling my zipper....... you can hook up a intercooler with out having a turbo or supercharger. i was told that the hook up is to
run the pipe from the t/b to the cooler and put the filther on the in coming end of the cooler. this sounds ok but i'm not to sure about it
run the pipe from the t/b to the cooler and put the filther on the in coming end of the cooler. this sounds ok but i'm not to sure about it
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Originally Posted by stjon
some one let me know if this is true or is some one pulling my zipper....... you can hook up a intercooler with out having a turbo or supercharger. i was told that the hook up is to
run the pipe from the t/b to the cooler and put the filther on the in coming end of the cooler. this sounds ok but i'm not to sure about it
run the pipe from the t/b to the cooler and put the filther on the in coming end of the cooler. this sounds ok but i'm not to sure about it
It's Called an "Interfooler"
It's Totally RICE and should not be done due to the fact that everyone will make fun of you..
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Originally Posted by NJHK
I know I'm late...haven't been real active for a little bit but wanted to say good info you've posted here Brian.
Thanks YO..
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UPDATE:
Porsche Has Recently Introduced it in the 911 Turbo. Twin Computer Controled Variable. It kills lag and will give you power in an instant.
Ok FORGET This Old ****...PORSCHE Fixing the Automotive World One Part At A Time.
They have refined it to the point that there is no lag at all. The Car behaves like a Big N/A monster with a near linear torque curve.
Variable Closed
Variable Open
Porsche Has Recently Introduced it in the 911 Turbo. Twin Computer Controled Variable. It kills lag and will give you power in an instant.
Ok FORGET This Old ****...PORSCHE Fixing the Automotive World One Part At A Time.
They have refined it to the point that there is no lag at all. The Car behaves like a Big N/A monster with a near linear torque curve.
Variable Closed
Variable Open
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