Going ZZP Twincharged- 2nd Buyer
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From: LaCrosse, WI
You are the one getting all bent out of shape about my opinion. Again nothign to do with my car, im jsut saying that spending 7200 dolalrs on a car to only get like 400 whp is a waste IMO, some of you think differently that is fine, just dont get all "zomg he is so mean" on me, because that is just old. This is a ******* forum, if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen.I wasmaking a comparison showing how much of waste it seems.
Im happy he likes it because that is what matters, and I want his job
, because I cant just blow 7200 on a car right now without taking a ******* loan. He could of pieced together a turbo kit wit heverything for like less then 3k, and had the same power, but without all the tuning complications.You are such a jealous tool...
lawlz..
and to the rest of the people, im just stating my opinion to some people. If I had a geo metro I would still say the same damn thing, geez people love to drag my car into it. Leave my car out of it, it didnt do anything to you
Wow That wasnt directed at you, hence why it was entered a couple spaces down. But what a way to attack Do you love my evo or something?? You love to bring it up alot My evo is ******* slow, why bring it up??? Remember I have no top end, and the car only runs 11's (which is slow these days). So you run 10's?
yessir, that is right. Nailed it right on the head.
and to the rest of the people, im just stating my opinion to some people. If I had a geo metro I would still say the same damn thing, geez people love to drag my car into it. Leave my car out of it, it didnt do anything to you
Wow
That wasnt directed at you, hence why it was entered a couple spaces down. But what a way to attack Do you love my evo or something?? You love to bring it up alot My evo is ******* slow, why bring it up??? Remember I have no top end, and the car only runs 11's (which is slow these days). So you run 10's?yessir, that is right. Nailed it right on the head.
to the OP VIDS OR BAN!!
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From: Lakeland
For those that keep making the comments about spending less for the same HP isn't the whole point of this kit to have the instant boost with little to no lag at all and a nice solid power band? Not to mention that there was other monies spent on other things that most already have on their car or pick up piece by piece. In any case what does it matter what he spent to acheive what he wants. Could be that it was worth the extra cash to have a unique set up. Not everyone that modifies a car does it to be the fastest 
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From: Chicago
For those that keep making the comments about spending less for the same HP isn't the whole point of this kit to have the instant boost with little to no lag at all and a nice solid power band? Not to mention that there was other monies spent on other things that most already have on their car or pick up piece by piece. In any case what does it matter what he spent to acheive what he wants. Could be that it was worth the extra cash to have a unique set up. Not everyone that modifies a car does it to be the fastest
just looking to be quicker.. and so it's unique
correct. clearly he feels the need to stay on a cobalt site after selling his REDLINE to talk smack and feel like he is some god, for what? however if you notice he is one of the rare few who is always on. always posting up stupid bullshit that makes no sense. I once read that people who have issues join forums and just post a bunch of **** to make themselves feel better. if he had anything better to do he would stop posting or quoting people and trying to pick fights. leave the poor guy alone. clearly he has issues. i can tell that he has some issues with himself because he is going to come on here, read all of this and be like **** no **** you. then it will make himself feel better with whatever comment or remark he has to write back to this. however when he gets that feeling of "i just served that guy, or fucked them up". he has no clue that i am never coming back in this thread and reading what he had to say because i have better things to do in my life. go get a life and stop showing everyone you have personal issues with yourself. trust issues or wanting to feel cool or whatever the case is.
im out. even though he is going to write back and feel cool and be like omfg i just served that guy and i totally one that arguement. REALIZE that i will never read what you had to say back to me and i already know that you have some type of problem. later tool
im out. even though he is going to write back and feel cool and be like omfg i just served that guy and i totally one that arguement. REALIZE that i will never read what you had to say back to me and i already know that you have some type of problem. later tool
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
If you max the MAF then the computer cant add anymore fuel. We will have an easy fix for this in the near future and you wont have to put a bigger MAF tube in either.
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actually it can. the system holds that last cell and rides it out. does the same thing as timing does.
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From: Boynton Beach, Fl
Area, question...
Lets say your tuning.. now like you said, the last table holds...
So about how "far" do you go past the MAF table? How would the tables look slightly before the last cell? Are they prepared as such to compensate for the last table being off? I think you can understand what im saying...
Lets say your tuning.. now like you said, the last table holds...
So about how "far" do you go past the MAF table? How would the tables look slightly before the last cell? Are they prepared as such to compensate for the last table being off? I think you can understand what im saying...
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
Actually it cant. It does hold the last cell but it doesnt add any more fuel above that last frame, so the car gets leaner and leaner and leaner. Then a possible Kaboom.
wouldnt holding that last value luike you said mean that last value is the limit though? you wouldnt be adding fuel after that last value, because there isnt a next value telling the ECU to do so? or am i wrong?
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
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From: Still fixing others mistakes.
Rent me! per hour
Joined: 03-22-07
Posts: 24,161
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From: Still fixing others mistakes.
Area, question...
Lets say your tuning.. now like you said, the last table holds...
So about how "far" do you go past the MAF table? How would the tables look slightly before the last cell? Are they prepared as such to compensate for the last table being off? I think you can understand what im saying...
Lets say your tuning.. now like you said, the last table holds...
So about how "far" do you go past the MAF table? How would the tables look slightly before the last cell? Are they prepared as such to compensate for the last table being off? I think you can understand what im saying...
log maf vs error % or maf vs afr which ever you chose to do. do the usual maf scaling. then set the 11k cell to a desired air flow number and run with it. you are stuck at this, and it's not a bad thing. 500whp can be made, and has been made doing this. if the wastegate freaks, or boost controller freaks. hold on, because you have no built this level of error compensation into it, and can't. so you are at the mercy of these two things to work right and make life happy.
