Originally Posted by big_mike

agreed, understood, and laying this conversation to rest.

cheers brutha!

Originally Posted by adam0416

I'd have it because it fits me, and because insurance is MUCH cheaper, and I won't have a 1000 theives trying to steal it, or key the nice pretty paint that the cars come with. And I'm also fond of 30mpg driving, unlike the other two "supercars" you mentioned.

Originally Posted by SpecialK

First off you wont have car theives goinv after a Z06 or a viper. Why? Because every part on that car is accounted for and is monitored like a controlled substance. They come out in small batches yearly. One's stolen? Well the stolen parts won't be coming to surface for a good year or so because those parts are so damn hot one gets sold and it's all over. What's the most stolen cars? Econo boxes, which the cobalt is honestly. Tens of thousands made yearly. ADn thers' demand for cobalt parts cause people are wreckibg them and modding them. Just like EK civics in the 90s you were taking a huge risk jsut parking it at walmart. Though nowdays taking a new car is hard as hell with the ignition cut systems put into the car alarms that come stock and such.

Second, a Vette can get 30mpg stock. Hell I got damn near 40 with my T/A stock. You forget that 6th is good to nearly 300mph at 7 grand. That being if you coudl actually get the car that fast. 6th is deep, 1200 at 65 man, it ain't no thing for that big ol v-8 to idle along at that speed and sip.

Third a Viper isn't a suprcar, it's an exotic. Supercars are about speed and light weight. A viper is a lard assed grandpa car. It's sad when I whooped up on one by a leingth when all I had were headers, a SLP lid and a slowmaster catback.

AS far as choice of car. I say to all you cobalt guys going for broke in the quest for speed. Good luck finding your end goal. You've got a long uphill battle till vendors start makign supercharger swaps. Which hopefully is soon. I like the Balt/g5/Ion. If I wans't dumping money into my T/A liek a crack fiend I'd own one, a base at least, or maybe a N/A SS. You guys are taking half the motor and putting it in 3/4 of th ecar and putting down decient numbers. Traction of course pwns you. But thats' to be expected from GM's budget sporty car. You are all pioneers and you shoudl pat yourself on the back. A little. Your breaking new ground by puttin gmoney into R&D. I hope one of these day si'll ahve trouble getting away from a Cobalt at the strip.

Originally Posted by adam0416

I'm about to buy a Cobalt SS/SC in a month. I already know what this car is cabable of, and I already have my future mods all in order. I'm actually going to tell you WHAT is going to be done, and how it is going to benefit Cobalt owners nationwide. The fact is, this has never been done before. If any of you know anything about superchargers, you'll already know that the M62 is the weakest supercharger that Eaton has designed. Sure, can produce substantial horsepower and certainly too much for a 2900lb FWD. At the same time, it needs lots and lots of boost and even at that....it is still very inefficient and it can be devastating to the pistons, especially under high, long loads. I've chatted with a very reputable builder that is working closely with a GM TOP FUEL team. We're going to do one of two things: either take the M62, completely re-fabricate/port and polish/add new internals to it, and ADD and after cooler, OR fabricate an M90 blower and add an aftercooler to it as well. It really depends upon how much all of this will cost ME in the end. Either way, the kit will be completely bolt-on and coming with a custom CAI, a fabricated header (2 inch primaries, 3 inch collector), and a full 3 inch catback, w/o the cat. The tuning will be done with HPTuners and with the help of 660cc injectors. According to my authorities, which I will not name until they are ready for this kit to be public, the kit is almost guaranteed to be well beyond 300whp with just 11psi. Yes, adding 100hp with no addition to boost whatsoever. What does this mean to you? It means sooner or later, there will be a kit out that delivers massive horsepower with exactly no reduction in reliability. Once I buy the car, it will be the prototype. I'll first post a dyno graph using a MUSTANG dyno of the car in completely stock form. After everything is said and done...I'll repost the car's new dyno graph, just so you can see it for yourself. Even better, I've also planned to have the head done by this same team. Again my authorities believe it will produce massive horsepower, possibly adding yet another 90-100hp. All in all, we're expecting nearly 400whp at around 15psi. All of this on stock internals. It's hard to believe, but if the car is running less boost w/ the right A/F ratios...how could it not handle that power. I'll keep you updated with the production of the kit.