so ive read that some Saab's have the same turbo manifold that will bolt up to a 2.2 does anyone know which model Saab that is?
i am thinking of doing a custom setup. a freind of mine suggested the T25 turbo, does this sound right? i dont know much about these turbos
dont worry i am not going to be doing this install alone so you can save the "you dont know what your doing do more research comments"
i am just looking into the best combination of turbo for the price with my 2.2 engine. i know ball bearing turbos are amazing but i simply can't afford that, and am told that you can get similar performance out of another turbo

 

umm the saab 93 2.0t that sould fit the 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4

 

its a 2003+ 9-3 2.0Turbo intake manifold. if you use the search button i have mentioned this like a billion times. there is one in the mail for me, im gonna be using it along with forged internals.

 

wow two very opposite answers, lol. but Sw4y1313 since you say your doing it ill take your word for it thanks!

 

since you guys are on the saab topic, are saab 5 lug the same as cobalt 5lug?

 

i snet you a pm, but ill post it here to, where did you get your manifold/how much!
thanks!

hey man, you a late nighter too?

 

i think only on the 9-3 AND THE 9-5

 

damn SAAB's are confusing!

 

what was so oppisite lol.. i said a saab 93 2.0t... an said a 2003 saab 93 2.0t .......

 

Just to clarify...

Yes, it's the 2003+ Saab 9-3 2.0 ECOTEC Turbocharged

Yes, you COULD use the stock manifold

The turbocharger that they use is not a T25 turbocharger, it's a Mitsubishi TD04 turbocharger and it's on the small side. I wouldn't suggest this swap for a couple of reasons...

1. It's stock parts.
2. If you decide to upgrade, you'll be almost **** out of luck because the manifold/turbocharger use a 3 bolt triangular flange, not a common T3 rectangular style flange that is 4 bolt which most aftermarket turbochargers come in.
3. It's internally wastegated...idk if you really want to stay with a Internally wastegated turbocharger. If you decide to go with a larger turbo that isn't internally wastegated, you'd have to change the manifold anyways.
4. The stock turbocharger doesn't flow as much air as you might think and won't be as efficient as a aftermarket unit.
5. You'd be buying USED turbocharging parts...don't.

It only makes sense to go aftermarket with the turbo setup...

 

i thought you meant a 1993. sorry i don't know SAAB's

 

oooh lol i see... i dont think they made the 93 in '93 lol

 

If you call your local Saab Parts department, ask for a B207R Intake Manifold for a 2003+ 9-3 2.0T. It costs $158 plus shipping/tax. My total was $184 with gaskets and $10 freight shipping that comes in 3-4 business days. The problem i ran into is that the supplier who makes the intake manifolds f'ed up and had to recall them and fix the issue. So im still waiting on my manifold to arrive. Its been 3-weeks, but because of the inconvenience they are not charging me for shipping, and as soon as the supplier has the manifold they are over-nighting it to the parts department for me to pick up.

 

good idea for a budget project, but as NJHK has stated, using a T25 turbo will give you minimal performance. However, there are many hybrid turbos out there that use the same turbine housing with the mitsu flange that should bolt up nice. In particular you will want to check out ForcedPerformance as they have VERY nice turbos. Also you're going to have to make sure it has an internal wastegate for that setup. This could work well for a budget project, but just keep in mind you'll be limited.

 

thanks for the info. as far as limited, most internal wastegated turbos that im finding boost 8 or 9 pounds. that is all i want. no more or it would blow my engine.

 

if that is the case and you're going with small boost application, this would be a good project. you can search any DSM website (i've listed some below) and look through the classifieds for a T25, T28, 14B or the like for your application. Quick spool up since they are small turbos...I would recommend the 14B personally. You can obtain a used one for along the lines of $50. You just want to make sure it's in good shape (no shaft play, low miles, etc).

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or search for a local DSM club website. there are several here in NJ.

 

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No offense to you at all but before you buy anything you need to research more to understand forced induction and especially turbocharger systems. From that statement alone I can see that you're not ready.

Referencing to air pressure means nothing in a general aspect. It's about the CFM per PSI that the turbocharger generates.

A small turbocharger will be very responsive BUT will have terrible power in the higher part of your powerband. If you ever drive a stock turbocharged car like a 1.8T, it spools easily and then when you hit 3000-3200 RPMs it's like driving a naturally aspirated car. The higher you rev, the more airflow you need...they obviously can't support it.

Seriously, if you're going to do this, do this correctly and not cheaply. Don't go the stock parts route...