Please. Go back and read it again. It was simply copied and posted.

Rodney

 

Wow!

I'm actually alittle shamed by the I'm better than you contest going on here.
Granted one company is defending a claim from another company that thier product is not good. But look at it like this.

The more arguing over (100% compatiablity and who came out with this product or that product first) only scares away people looking to get into Meth injection. When companies try to make themselves look better and other companies attempt to defend themselves out in the public everyone looks bad and the average consumer who is not well versed in the topic will be scared away with the assumption that all meth injection is bad.

When companies post information about competiors equipment in the efforts to help the public make a better choice and the information is untrue or misrepresented / interpreted what ever it may be then the rival company talks privately company to company to come to an agreement to remove said information or correct the wrong parts. If that does not work then suck it up be the bigger company post one Quoteone) post with the correct information an info for the user to contact said company with questions or concerns.

I have an AIS system.
But it does not make me biased towards them.
Rodney as been very helpful in any questions I've had just as the techs at Devils Own helped me earlier when I looked at thier product.

As for misinformation you must remember every car is diffrent. How many Cobalts has either three companies tested on? Engines are diffrent things work the same in principle but the means to reach that can be diffrent. One thing thats works a certain way on a car can be radicly diffrent on another all car tuners now this. So we learn what changes things we research and move on.

/End Rant

 

thanks man!

 

Oh my.. I read the wrong post...

This is what I was referring to.

I've noticed recently that anytime you call out a member of CSS, you will start out with "sorry you feel that way".
You pulled it on Area, and pulled it on me.

The bottom line is; we are concerned with peoples cars / engines... you are concerned with sales.

 

You did not answer any of my questions. I took the time out of my day to answer your questions to me. Do i need to post this on every forum to get you to reply?



I have not posted any lies. Your very first line below proves you contradicts yourself.
Are you suggesting that i took your pump and popped in a different seal? But that contradicts your first line below.

How am i mis-informed? The pump does say coolingmist on it? So it is your pump? You have always sold these as methanol compatible? So some people did buy this pump with the viton o-ring, But you at the time sold it as methanol compatible?

I am not talking about your older silver pump nor our older pump that neither of us sold this way. Both of our older pumps are viton.

How is this dis-honest? Is it your pump or not... Did you sell it as methanol compatible?


Being an old pump or not. Maybe even the same as currently sold, once someone calls we will know. But you have always sold the "black pump" as methanol compatible. So having the viton part at any time goes against you claim methanol compatible.

 

i can't tune
::shrugs::

im going to go cut myself now to let the pain out.


wow this turned into a pissing match.


my personal kit on my car is a mixture of parts.

snow performance. devilsown. aquamist.

find the best parts and run with em

 

lol, total burn!

 

For everyone reading this, Devils own is trying to make you believe something that is not true. They are claiming the pump that we sell today is not methanol compatible or rather has VITON seals. To clear up this issue once and for all I am releasing our BOM.

Here is the details sent to me from SHURFLO right off the BOM. Part #s are included. These are Shurflo Part #s so you can verify if you like.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David,

Unfortunately sometimes in the business world there are companies that prefer to spend their time marketing against their competition versus marketing on the qualities, features and merit of their own company and products.

Below is a copy of your SKU (8030-811-239) which we released for you back on 12/16/05. The actual product description shows "PMP 12VDC 150SW N/E/S" which means, 12 VDC motor, 150 psi pressure switch, Nylon/EPDM/Santoprene elastomers (in which the EPDM is the valves and orings).

Additionally I have cut and paste straight from the Bill of Material, the item # for the EPDM valves and O-rings.

0......... 8030-811-239|00 PMP 12VDC 150 SW N/E/S
Notes: FOR COOLINGMIST ONLY

1........ 41-080-06|00 INLET VALVE EPDM 70 DS
1........ 41-266-06|00 DISCHARGE VALVE,EPDM 2GPM
1........ 5-042-011|00 O-RING-011.070X0.301E70S
2....... 46-006-70|00 MATERIAL SPEC EPDM 70S

Should you or anyone else need additional clarification or information please feel free to contact me directly,

Thanks for your business,

Greg Correard

Greg Correard
Pentair Water - SHURflo
Sales Manager
Industrial Products Division
203-744-8516 Office
203-744-8517 FAX
greg.correard@pentairwater.com


================================================== =
Here is the build sheet order from 05



once again, I never claimed 100% methanol until we got EPDM seals. I am 100% certain. You can make stuff up all you want. Good try though. Continue on the attack. It was not good enough that your "company" and mine could get along and not fight. Just remember, you wanted it this way.



David

 

damn! another burn. devil, now your really on fire. lol

 

this is getting out of hand, this needs to be discussed between vendors in private, in a professional manner. to all three vendors in this little debate: all you are doing by furthering these pissing matches is lowering customer confidence in your company.

 

could you suck his dick any harder?

 

are you reffering to me?

 

I think he is refuring to Colejones

 

no sir. the one above you

 

We were notified by a Cobalt SS member about this competitor starting this thread in which our name was included. We felt it was necessary to reassure our customer that their pump included EPDM seals and not Viton as described by this competitor.

Because of it we have had four customer acknowledge through post and emails they have pulled their pumps apart to confirm their pump does not contain this Viton O-ring. We are treating this as a very serious matter in which we will no longer be participating in this forum thread from this point on.

Our apologies to those who have been disappointed with this event as we are too.

Rodney

 

I dont want to fight with anyone. I dont like our products being distorted. I asked nicely for them to ammend the statement, assuming they had our older pump and maybe it was just a mistake.

All Devilsown had to say was "we didnt realize your new pump was EPDM" and it would have been all good.

Last month when someone said that he had destroyed his engine using Devils own MIX I jumped to DO's defense saying that it was someone out to damage DO. I did this because I dont like to see reputations get hurt based on MIS-Truths.

I realize the real world and not everyone thinks like I do. I like to give others the same respect I get.

David

 

**** you area. you don't know me. why are you trying to attack me? just let me be an instigator for once, geez! oh, and how about you lick my *****, we can do it by the numbers to make it easier for you

 

if you actually took the time to read past the bs, find your own info and not ride the coat tails of someone else for once. it would be a revelation to yourself.

 

<--- patiently waiting areas response to ^

damn it i post to slow

 

so is there any reason why someone couldn't by the kit of their choice, and SEPERATELY buy som EPDM o-rings and replace them themselves, just for their own piece of mind?

 

nope. no reason!

 

The point is all manufacturers for the most part use the same pump.
As of 2006 accordingly the pumps use the EPDM O-rings.
Thus they are 100% compatible.
From what I understand.

 

well, if that's the case, it should seem to me the issue is resolved, at least for us as consumers? I figure the vendors can duke it out on their own turf

 

i'd say first vendor with kick ass group buy wins =)

 

what are you talking about? like I said, im just being an instigator. im not on anyones side. I could have went either way. I think its fun to watch people bitch and argue over stuff. get some good info that way