Kritter

And if you read the rest of the post you would have, or at least should have been able to see the point of the whole post, not just nitpick a single line......The point was that everyone is coming out with huge number producing numbers, which is fine and dandy, and hyping such a a badass price, and how it'll be so much lower than everyone elses.
Then, in the end, the whole thing gets delayed, backordered and costs pretty much the same.


So one guy makes 411 WHP, great, glad he pushed it that far, while using a single turbo, not twincharge. Is he going to travel the US and tune everyone who buys this setup so they don't go blow their motors skyhigh?


If they can make this power relaibly over an extended period of time, and make it for a good price, fantastic...All I'm saying is for once in my life, I would love to see a vendor make a product, test it over a period, and by the time he came to the forums, it'd be production ready, have safe tuning data and max out tuning data, and a price.


If this turns out to be a legit setup, I'm all over it, still missing the one thing that should have already been there....the price.

The comment about the 400 hp tunability is frustration at the fact that no matter where I look, I can't seem to get a solid answer as to when(HP wise) does our **** blow???? I know GM did a thing where they took one of our motors and ran it till it blew, but the fact this guy is going 411 to the wheel just proved that whole data sheet inaccurate, thus my frustration

2K5SS/SC?

Screw that, we are allowed two drinks and they actually have real alcohol here suprisingly enough. I wait a month, and then go get two Captain and Cokes before 10pm, and then after 12am I can get another 2. We call it double downing, and it gives a slight buzz, but nothing super special.

bigboy is going to pissed when he hears that! Trust me I've been in places where no alcohol is allowed, and I'd much rather be where he's at without it so I can actually do my job and disarm those IED's instead of being in the rear with the gear! WOOT!

black06ss

ill keep my eyeballs on this to see what happens.
oh and as i was reading through i saw someone say something about how they had to calculate the boost the turbo made then the how much the blower would compress the already forced air on the cavy, well it got me thinking, and correct me if im wrong, but roots dont compress air and wouldnt the forced air be slowed causing less pressure in the manifold? this is purely me wondering / thinking so someone correct me.

DoubleLP

WTFAYTA??

I hate acronyms!

ebristol

iTrader: (4)

You just wont give up will you. You should really understand how a twin charged setup works before you open your mouth.

Yes, he made that power on turbo but the twin charged setup is not much different. Blower gets you moving and then the turbo takes you home. Once the turbo is properly spooled the blower opens its bypass valve and lets the turbo do all the work.

Yes there will be some parasitic hp loss from still spinning the sc but since its not boosting it will be very low like 10hp. Which has already been mentioned in this thread.

READ before REPLY.

LE5CAV

I HAVE A FEELING THATS THE REASON WERE JUST KNOW HEREING ABOUT THIS AND ITS GOING TO BE OUT NEXT MONTH, ALSO THERE INCLUDING THE TUNE, WITH THE WAY THIS IS SET UP ID SAY THIS IS FOR UNMODDED GUYS SENSE IT REQUIRES THE STOCK OR LARGER PULLEY, SO A THERE WONT BE A HOLE LOT OF VAIABLIES TO CONSIDER UN LIKE THE TVS THAT IS FOR HEAVILY MOD CARS, WHEN DECIDING WHICH ONE TO GET, CONSIDER WERE YOUR AT IN YOUR MODS

djt81185

If i can get my car together, tuned, and to MI before Im done with school I want to race it...the twincharged car that is

bigboybigtruck21

DAMT BILLY YOU SUCK...But i got one for you lol i will be home in like 22 days so ha and i will be in kuwait in like 13...So where are you at in Kuwait

2K5SS/SC?

Nope Kuwait is not club med either, but I'm still not allowed to say the location.

Kritter

It would be great to learn, but here's the complication......try sifting through endless pages of threads before finally coming to something that actually explains the science behind it....I'm not against the concept of this setup, if it works, fantastic, I just want to know how and why.....Someone above just kind of answered it by saying the TVS was designed to be used on highly modded cars.

I don't proclaim to be all knowing, in fact, I'm the first one to admit when it comes to moddin cars, I'm still new, so if I can find some bit of info that shows me the science behind this, and I can learn it, I'd call it a good day.

With no definative numbers on when internals go, I have to look at everything with scrutiny. What about the tranny, can it sustain those torque numbers on daily drivability and launches? If not, what do we have as a replacement option?

07 SS/SC

This all sounds very nice to me right now. I am very intrested pending more info/pricing/supporting mods ect ect.

ColeJJones

I've said once and i'll say it again, zzp ftw!

freakta

iTrader: (1)

things change technology gets better and power comes in different ways. So 2 yes ago 300whp could have been the max. Last year 400hp could have been the max. Tomorrow 500 could be it. Same things happened with the lt1s. A couple yes in 350whp with heads and cam you were doing great. Now 450whp heads cam setup your doing what everyone else is

Scythe_Snake

Hmmm, I would like to see what this thing is really about. I am glad we are finally getting good aftermarket support, thank you ZZP.

BTW, when you release the TVS are you going to include all the little 'extra' mods you need to the MAP and/or MAF?

I can for see someone trying this....turbo and TVS. twincharge....but witht hat combo I see numerous blown ****.

EmperorJJ1

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subscribed

Pully Police

This is interesting.

I will definately keep up with this thread.

yel-low

yeah this souds cool but i want to see it in person and see how much it will be

tkaugh29

or just post prices and everything for everyone....seeing as your got us all excited and havent responded in a while.....

ViSiONZ

Subscribed!

rockSTAR_SS

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Subscribed.

If everything works out with this kit then it's definitely gonna be the way to go. Don't you realize how much this eliminates you from buying? No cai, sc stage kit (save the bigger injectors and colder plugs), no header AND no downpipe seeing that most of that stuff is replaced with this kit... Sorry I'm kinda talking to myself more than anyone else. Just sorting it out. Really the only supporting mods need would be an aftermarket cat-back exhaust.

However, I too question the capability of stock internals and the stock transmission and such. I'm sure it would all hold up nicely to mild boost and tuning but I would probably do some upgrading just to be safe. In this end this will most likely come out to be more than I originally planned on spending. But who cares... The hp difference in this and what I woulda ended up with would totally make up for it.

Now for two big questions. Price and installation time?!

blissmaster13

Still no prices??? When are we gonna find out???

Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C

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subscribed if this fits the 2.4 ss and about the same price as hahn or hoping maybe cheaper im on your list next year in purchasing this kit..i need boost so bad my car is so slow

ColeJJones

how is it going to fit the 2.4??? its made to support and work with our supercharger. dont see that happening bud

2K5SS/SC?

I think they are planning on offering just a straight turbo kit as well. Don't quote me on that, but I thought that was the other part of this kits development since it's essentially a full turbo kit anyhow.

95cam86roc

We still waiting for prices on the kit?