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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Regular Cobalt SS a "Mistake" (article from Inside Line)

I am not sure if that was a direct quote, or if that’s something Inside Line crafted

DETROIT — Don't expect Chevrolet in the future to put the SS moniker on every model in the same way, says General Motors new Vice President of Global Engineering Mark Reuss.

Reuss told reporters Thursday that instead of smearing the SS across Chevrolets "like peanut butter," the "new" GM will carefully consider which models get the SS designation at all, which ones will get SS as just a trim level and which ones will get the full SS treatment.

He noted that throughout Chevrolet's history, SS has been used as a sporty trim package as well as on a full-blown model with a powerful engine and all of the accompaniments. But mixing the two strategies as GM did with the Cobalt was "a mistake," he said.

"We probably didn't do a very good job on the Cobalt SS," said Reuss, who headed GM's performance operations before taking over GM's Holden operations in Australia, just prior to his newest job. "We came out with probably the best sport compact tuner with the 265-horsepower Cobalt SS. That car was an amazing track car, it was fun to drive and it was very affordable."

But then GM also put the SS label on a Cobalt as a trim package but without the engine and other performance hardware.

"That was confusing — confusing to me and confusing to the customer," said Reuss. "It's like trainspotting, figuring out which SS has the 265-horsepower engine."

Inside Line says: Chevrolet's SS label in the future will mean something. — Michelle Krebs, Senior Analyst and Editor at Large
http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...boss-says.html

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Thats an interesting read.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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idk doesnt confuse me. ss= trim sc and tc have the ss trim stuff with higher horse power then plain ss trims. and the fact its LABELED on the car kinda makes you know like SUPERCHARGED and TURBOCHARGE clearly says i am not just an ss..
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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idk doesnt confuse me. ss= trim sc and tc have the ss trim stuff with higher horse power then plain ss trims. and the fact its LABELED on the car kinda makes you know like SUPERCHARGED and TURBOCHARGE clearly says i am not just an ss..
People debadge you know..but then again people put SS on base models..
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Oh I read that. Its true what hes saying. SS/NA was kinda a waste. They should made the SS sedans with a M62 as well as the SS coupe. NA shouldnt of had SS badges. Some people would say "I beat a SS Cobalt". No **** NA. SS should be for the supercharged/turbo/big liter engines. Not just sport seats and relocated shifters. Oh well, we shall see what the "New GM" has in store for us. That is all.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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People debadge you know..but then again people put SS on base models..

lmfao......thats good *******
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Yeah some kid in a talon kept telling me my car was slow and that he had beat one by 5 car lengths before. So i told him lets run them so he agreed, none the less he got spanked pretty bad prolly by 4/5 cars. he was cool tho he apolagized and i told him it was prolly a SS/NA then proceeded to tell him how GM was a bunch of idiots when they made that one.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Malibu SS and Silverado SS were a few that bothered me.

I was more comfortable with the Monte Carlo and Impala, but still didn't think they deserved the SS badge (especially the 3800 N/A MCSS). I don't think my Cobalt deserved it really.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Slobalt
Malibu SS and Silverado SS were a few that bothered me.

I was more comfortable with the Monte Carlo and Impala, but still didn't think they deserved the SS badge (especially the 3800 N/A MCSS). I don't think my Cobalt deserved it really.
The LSJ/LNF i think deserves the SS tag. I mean there powerful in there own class. There not ment to have 400hp out the door to compete with the SRT8's and such.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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but god damn they shoulda lol.....been drinkin
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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i have 2.4 SS and i always said it shouldve been an RS package, which was aloways an appearance package. and now they have the Cobalt LS 3. which is all the SS/NA trim with a 2.2 which is truly an RS car.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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i agree in away i dont think the 2.2s should have been built call the 2.4 a base model and only the super/turbo models a true ss
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmarie619
idk doesnt confuse me. ss= trim sc and tc have the ss trim stuff with higher horse power then plain ss trims. and the fact its LABELED on the car kinda makes you know like SUPERCHARGED and TURBOCHARGE clearly says i am not just an ss..
it confuses the average person tho. because your grand parents and ricers most likely won't know that a lip kit is highly likely to be a sc or tc
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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didn't someone on here know a guy who bought an SS/NA thinking it was supercharged? I'm sure he wasn't the first
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Imagine the confusion caused when owners of SRT8 gets passed by so many "no badge" Cobalt...
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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^^ I like the center cap removal kind of looks like G8 wheels
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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A certain ex-member with a 2008 Sport Cobalt is probably having an aneurysm reading this.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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I wouldn't call it a mistake. But the meaning behind the "SS" emblem has certainly changed over the years.

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a certain ex-member with a 2008 sport cobalt is probably having an aneurysm reading this.
lmao!

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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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i agree the ss badge shouldn't have gone on the 2.4 models
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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I would be pissed if I didn't know very much about cars and some bonehead salesman told me a 2.4 "SS" was supercharged and I bought it.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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I think that's a good idea, It should be something special when you see SS on a Chev.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Wow I hope this wasn't a direct quote bc first off that is sad that he doesnt know he cars that GM had produced lol and second hes talking about when the cobalt ss/sc and the cobalt ss/2.4 were both out in 2005-2007. He complimented the supercharged car as a amazing car that DESERVED the "SS" emblem and how the 2.4 was not up to par and was a different sub trim.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mkulrey13
People debadge you know..but then again people put SS on base models..
i know but i am talking at the dealership... if you cant tell afterwards you obvi dont know **** about the car anyways

Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
it confuses the average person tho. because your grand parents and ricers most likely won't know that a lip kit is highly likely to be a sc or tc
are grandparents who they are looking to sell a super charged/ turbocharged tuner car to? no, i don't think so. and ricers wel they doint get an si civic so they dont matter or even a GLI jetta



but idk.. i personally think you should know about the car you are going to buy BEFORE you go to purchase...
so gtfo meh.

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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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*zips up flame suit* i dont think cobalt should have got "SS" at all. maybe a "Z" title or somin like other model cars, Z28, Z71, ZQ8, ZR1, Z24, Z34
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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I hope GM comes out with a Cruze SS coupe. I like the mix of fuel economy and performance that my Cobalt provides. A RWD coupe (smaller and lighter than a Camaro) with a turbo 4 banger would be a good move IMO. A think a lot of potential buyers were turned off by the Cobalt SS's FWD platform. I like FWD for winter driving though.
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