I have a zzp cat downpipe a k&n sri cai and a zzp pcm. I am going to be getting the LNF intercooler upgrade with the charge pipes and all that fun stuff by the end of the month. My question is which turbo would be the best choice with those upgrades plus E-85 and would I need anything else before getting an upgraded turbo? I am interested in the zfr. Zzp says it can get about 350whp with those basic tunes but nothing about with E-85. Is this turbo my best bet or are there better upgrades I should be looking at before a turbo?

 

You can get well over 350whp with a ZFR especially on e85 but only if you do fueling mods. Use 93 and you can get well over 350 and not run out of fuel.

But if you search you can get all of this information on this website as it's been beaten to death.

 

I went through atleast 20 articles before making this thread.lol what fueling mods do you mean?

 

Fuel lobe on cams, makes the HPFP work harder and pump more fuel to the injectors, if you run E47 you can go without the cams though. You're looking at 400+ WHP on 93 and 450+ on E85.

 

I know I won't use E-47. I would like the E-85 tune but I'm on 93 right now. 400whp is what I am looking to be at but I'll take 450whp 👍

 

If I get the zfr what am I going to need to make sure nothing blows up or needs replaced?

 

Well depending on who tunes you and what you take the ZFR to you might need a new transmission. Try the stock turbo on e47 (its really not that hard to mix, you drive to almost empty then add equal amounts of e85 and premium).

Second, have you ever rode in a 400-450fwhp car? Dont just randomly pick numbers out, I'm at 360fwhp and thats plenty for a DD. A guy local to me has the ZFR and put down 470fwhp and holy **** that thing rips, and it destroyed his transmission because he was pushing it and was aware this was going to happen.

 

I would have zzp do it. So ur saying do e47 before getting the zfr? With my current setup now how much hp should I be looking to gain? Won't I need it tuned for e47

 

And no.lol what mods do you have to make 360whp?

 

anywhere near 400whp your going to want a new tranny lol there are some on here that never needed one but getting over that mark you better start saving for a tranny lol. if you run e47 youll be around 340-350whp with a good tune from Term2 lol and close to 400wtq lol thats an insane daily driver in my eyes haha.

 

So I won't need a turbo to make 350?
This is what I am thinking to get... I am already planning on getting the zzp LNF upgrade package with the fmic and charge pipes. Then I think I need map sensors, a new gauge and new clutch then I can get e47 tune and have around 350whp? Am I missing anything I should get too?

 

on a good tune for e47 youll be damn close to 350 id say between 340-350whp, i made 330whp on 93 lol and i was tuned on e47 for a couple months and absolutely loved it completely different car man lol, if term2 sees this he would know better too on hp numbers lol. the map sensors are nice if you want to run higher boost and easier to tune with the gm stage one sensors. just get your charge pipes, fmic, intake and a catless dp. the catless dp is where youll gain your most power besides the tune obviously lol.

 

like the rest have said, on e47 and stock turbo with bolt ons, you would be around 350whp and 400wtq. if you went with the zfr you would be right around 400whp and 400wtq easy. but be prepared for a new transmission, even on e47 and stock turbo, you might want to prepare yourself, the torque in these cars loves to kill transmissions. when the time comes, either find a 4.45 gear set and pay someone to swap it into a good trans. or find a HHR SS transmission, comes with a 4.05 and the TOB that came with the LNF cobalt. i have the zfr and bolt ons with a 25psi tune from matt at zzp and put down 385whp and 393wtq on their mustang dyno. its stupid quick for a DD. i made a little more than 400 on their dyno with a little more aggressive tune but we agreed to back it down a little lol. this was stock motor that was never cracked open with 87k miles on it. just some personal experience for you. if your looking for just around 350ish, stick with stock turbo on e47.

 

I just got a zzp cat downpipe in July. Will it make a difference? So sensors aren't necessary?

 

Perfect thanks for the personal experience. I have 60k on my car. Have you take it to the track?

Have you taken it to the track also?

 

the sensors are nice if you get some its not a bad thing at all. they are nice and are very nice and easy to tune with. the catted dp shouldnt be too bad much better then stock though either way haha. i have been to the track but the clocks werent working the day i went, i did beat an 09 rt challenger that consistently runs 13.1-13.2 all day so me on 93 i was low 13s lol, but on e you should be high 12s low 13s with a good driver mod lol trap around 108-115 id say. depends all on your 60ft times lol if you can manage a 2.0-2.2 on e youd most likely be high 12s.

 

Nice! Would mounts be a good idea at 350whp?

 

mounts are always a good thing haha powell has the best his stage 1 streets are what im looking at getting this winter

 

everyone talks about getting 4.45s and I have a set installed in my car waiting for me :-)

 

I kind of figured they would be a good idea to stop my damn wheel hop

 

almost 100k on my car.

Stock transmission
stock block
stock clutch.

ZFR @ 24 psi for Winter. e47 at 28 psi for Summer.

Only issue, no traction.

 

yeah man mounts are always nice no matter what haha trust me youll love the car on e its crazy lol

this guy here has one of those lucky leprechauns with him every where he goes lmfao crazy how that car is still stock drive train haha

 

How long have you had the zfr on and tuned?

 

Put it on the car in Early August.

I have had a ***** to the wall tune on this car since 2012.

Look at the dyno thread, I have the highest wtq stock turbo LNF.

 

He's on a stock clutch and has only had the ZFR for two months, and the boost ramp is nice and easy no hard hit