Its true about some GM sites at home, I Can get on quite a few.

The business case for turbo however is more 50/50. It depends who you ask and so on. And for the tuner market yes it would make sense to make it turbo. HOWEVER we all know GM is very unique (as we all know) and very well may say "**** the competition and turbos, we'll blow their doors off with superchargers" Because as good as an SRT-4 is, I know of quite a few supercharged vehicles, 6 cylinders at that, that will beat SRT-4's easy.

My evidence that GM isn't making a turbo 08' model is because of Preliminary Information on SI (Service Information for all the non GM mechanics out there) That states stronger axles are coming in 2008 for the F23 tranny thats in the SS's.

 

To adress the 6-speed . The F-40 is not a RWD trans it is a FWD trans . It is a the same trans used in Saab 9-3 , 9-5 , Opel Astra VXr and the Pontiac G6 . The kappa cars , even the GXP and Redline use the 5 speed manual from the Colorado/Canyon trucks

Your entitled to yout philosophies , but you are dead wrong on the intent of the LNF . They are not guaging interest with it . It is the new way GM will be doing performance 4 cyl engines . The development of the LNF was far to costly and involved to just be a feeling the market out in a pair of extremely low volume cars . Goes more like this ....GM was premiering their latest 4 cyl technology in a pair of the most high profile new GM cars in the last decade . Your theory does apply to some aspect of the automotive industry , but I do assure you they dont spend billions developing an engine program to test the waters .

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

You realize the EcoTec and LNF turbo's have been a part of SAAB in Europe for quite sometime, they brought it over to america as a feeler.

And thanks for the jackass way of saying i'm wrong in every aspect.

You also forgot to prove me wrong on a large list of items I pointed out.

 

That is wrong . The turbocharged ecotecs used in Europe are Family 1 and pre-date the LSJ . GM tried to push the Family 2 LSJ on both Opel and Saab and they both rejected it . The LNF will be worked into the Euro market as well as a succesor to the Family 1 turbocharged engines .

I wasnt trying to be jackass , Im not trying to be arrogant ....sorry u took it that way . I just have a very good understanding of the aspect of the automotive industry people dont see . I cant show you proof ..sorry . U can see for yourself by January , the MCE Cobalt is supposed to be at Detroit , contrary to what I said prior .

 

But Like I said earlier, why would GM go through the process of creating the LSJ s/c motor just to stop it 3 years later? Why create stage kits? GM know's a lot about the trends in the motor industry and whos doing what and what group is looking for what in a car. If they TRULY wanted to make the Cobalt turbo'd they would have done so from the start.

I've said it a million times now, by AutoShow time we will know for sure.

And I really would like to see who started a turbo cobalt rumor...look at the **** you started...you

And theres also more true evidence that there WON'T be a 2008 turbo Cobalt than there will

 

You guys are all right there WONT BE A TURBO "COBALT" cause its gonna be a TURBO PURSUIT. G5 GTP people common

 

Not to be a jerk, but why are we still fighting about this? Sounds to me like someone is intimidated by the thought of a turbo cobalt...

What does it really matter though, honestly?


Edit: Wasted my 100th post in a turbo cobalt thread, wonderful.

 

GM was not operating globally like they are now when the LSJ was developed . GM north america used the resources it had at the time to meet the criteria they desired . People act as if the LNF is an entirely new engine . It is not . It is a modification of the LSJ cylinder head , fuel induction , air induction , and different pistons that cater to the direct injected fuel . Much like the LSx engines . LS1 to LS6 to LS2 . Its a building block in a modular engine family . You wanna talk even shorter life cycles , take the LS2 for example . It debuted in the 05 Vette and GTO . In 2008 it will already be replaced with the 6.2 LS3 ...again , another building block . The LS7 will have a VERY short life cycle as well .

Because it makes them money and generates enthusiasm for the SS/SC . They wanted a piece of the aftermarket cash cow too . GMMP while being GM yes , is not directly related to the production side . GMMP still makes and develops new parts for cars and engines that havent been made for years . The LSJ crate engine intially avail thru GMMP has been cancelled .

Their baby wasnt ready yet . Even Lori Queen herself hinted to the media the supercharged engine was a interim powerplant .....this was back in 2004 before the Cobalt was released .

The automotive media .

To the casual observer , totally agreed man .