Did anybody see this one recently?

But once again, edmonds.com only gets half the story. The cars in the pictures are SS/SC coupes, not SS coupes. The SS's haven't even been built yet, and they won't have 205 hp like the SS/SC. I guess I'll give them half credit.

Regardless I'm pretty stoked about a 300 hp Cobalt.

-Villain

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105234

P.S. for those of you who think I'm making a big issue out of a small one, here's a list of GM vehicle codes for 06 Chevy Deltas:

1AK37 - Cobalt: LS Coupe (in 05 the same code was a Base Coupe)
1AK69 - Cobalt: LS Sedan (... Sedan)
1AL37 - Cobalt: LT Coupe (in 05 this was the code for an LS Coupe)
1AL69 - Cobalt: LT Sedan (... Sedan)
1AM37 - Cobalt: SS Coupe (no 05 model)
1AM69 - Cobalt: SS Sedan (no 05 model)
1AP37 - Cobalt: SS Supercharged Coupe (no change)
1AS46 - HHR: HHR LT (yippee!)
1AT46 - HHR: HHR LS (no 05 model)
1AZ69 - Cobalt: LTZ Sedan (in 05 this was the code for an LT Sedan)

This means two things, 1. GM doesn't consider the two vehicles the same, and 2. they're changing things around for next year.

 

We had the full story on the front page for 2 weeks:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums//showthread.php?t=1741


GM does not call them SS/SC

That story on the front page as well.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums//showthread.php?t=1753

only 7 of the 75 were SS's

 

So I wonder what this kit will retail for? What kind of management system will it use? It will most likely require fuel, intake and exhaust modifiations at the very least. There is something to be said about factory backed aftermarket, in other words, you (aftermarket company) build it, test it, do all the R&D and spend all the money. Then we (GM) will offer it in our performance catalogs but not back it. Rather than the manufacturer do all the testing and R&D and offer it as an actual FACTORY built & tested upgrade. Like what Dodge does with the S1-S3. Granted S2 and S3 aren't covered under warranty, but they are developed by the PVO (now SRT) team which is under DCx and their only focus is the SRT group (Viper, Ram, 300, Charger, Magnum Crossfire etc)
Not that it really matters but I'm just curious how much this factory mass produced block can handle. It's not really fair to compare THIS block to the Ecotec drag engine, I doubt (I may be wrong) that it's THAT strong but I do know that the stock block from an SRT-4 can handle over 1,000 hp. As proven in the Racedeck Salt Flats SRT-4 that dyno'd at over 1,000 hp at the wheels with the factory redone trans (somewhat stronger gearsets) The car blew up the trans on the salt last year but will be back this year with a vengence. I know that motor rather well and who was involved with it's build and design. The actual crank/block itself is a factory production casting. Everything else is fully custom built by the very capable Darrell *** who has several 1,000 hp neon engines to his credit.

 

Villain,
This IS a big issue and in the 2006 model year it will be MUCH bigger! The customers and the sales and marketing (GM also) people will have to get their crap straight on this SS/SC coupe vs SS coupe and sedan mess. These are DIFFERENT models of the cobalt and if everbody can't learn that , the 2006 model year will be complicated.
Keep up the education on this topic!!

 

haha ive read alot of posts from you now, an everytime u hear something good about the supercharged cobalt ur always so quick to reply an have your doubts, and change the topic about how good the neon is...(oh yea well the neon can handle this much 12398132321hp stock!!) after about the 5th line u went completley way off topic... i think everyone wants talk about the twin charging, not the neon. stick to the topic instead of trying to get ppl to start another engine vs engine brawl

Back to the topic.....isnt this the same thing they did to that mini cooper? i bet it'll be awesome

 

JonelZ: Did the original article address two of the major issues here? Edmonds.com being completely off base in their "statements of fact" and the differences between the SS and the SS/SC? If so, how does a two week old article address poorly quoted facts in an article posted a mere six days ago?

VQ35DE: This doesn't seem to be a problem with GM and it's reps... rather, it seems as though there are too many people out there who "just don't get it" which could be a greater issue for GM. If GM's customer base just aren't intelligent enough to note the differences between two vehicle models, then their advertising should follow more like "Cobalt = Good" but written in crayon.

Further, Edmonds.com just sucks.

-Villain

 

If you want to jump to conclusions, by all means, don't let me get in your way. I don't hide my preferences. It's easy to have doubts when none of this has had any real world NON pro applications. Like I said in an earlier post, time will tell how well the factory block will hold up to enthusiast modifications.

 

and i guess nobody had any doubts about the srt-4. cause it is tried and true

 

Pretty much sums it up. Stick to the topic.