Forget Piggyback Controlers, Tune your PCM!
11-02-2005, 06:17 AM
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Forget Piggyback Controlers, Tune your PCM!
From SEMA -
www.umiracing.com
This is great news, especially those looking to built Phase 5 or even Phase 2 mildly boosted setups.
Thinking more about a Phase 5 Cobalt...
New calibrate-able software and engine management kits with Delphi ECU and custom wiring harness with digital dash. Complete kits available for LS1, LS6, LS2, LS7, LT1, 6.0 liter and Ecotec engines. *Additional Product Information* Company: UMI Racing Technology Address: 7442 E. Butherus Dr. Scottsdale AZ 85260 USA Phone: 480-951-9029 EXT 223 Fax: 480-951-3469 Website: email: lon@umiracing.com
This is great news, especially those looking to built Phase 5 or even Phase 2 mildly boosted setups.
Thinking more about a Phase 5 Cobalt...
11-02-2005, 08:37 AM
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I wonder if that address is for like a public building or whatever. I work no more then 5 mins away from there. Maybe Ill run over on lunch one day and check it out.
11-03-2005, 05:23 AM
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In the press released to SEMA 2005 Ecotec was listed as supported.
The price was $1200-$1500 and compared to high end units like AEM's system or Electromotives TEC 3 this is CHEAP. Its also plug-n-play and no hacking.
For a competitive Phase 5 car you'll need some sort of aftermarket engine management.
Phase 5 was developled for 500-550hp, but to be competitive in NHRA Sport FWD, you need 600hp at least depending on the cars weight. In fact Steve Lockett's Neon is around 2400lbs and has run 9.84@148 and he makes about 600hp and change.
I mention his car because its automatic...
Jason Hunt's '00 Civic Si is 2515lbs and has the class record at 9.54@154
Kindles car has F.A.S.T which cost twice as much and I believe Erica's car has the same unit.
Sorry but you can't make that kind of power and control it well with fuel pressure regulators...
Im not sure how much Hahn's Port Fueler system will support and its around $500 total seperately or available with Hahn's turbo kits.
Speaking of Hahn there Ecotec car has run 11.44 at the NOPI World Finals in Norwalk. I believe that was still on the 16G turbocharger.
If I do build a Phase 5 car it will be pretty much stock engine with Hahn kit, rods, pistons, maybe CNC'ed head and aftermarket cams, but stock intake manifold, throttle body, etc.
Think I can get about 400hp somewhere over 20psi on a Super 20G turbo. Maybe hit it with 100hp of nitrous and maybe get 500+hp
But you have to start someplace and I need the rest of the money for suspension and transmission upgrades.
Anyway I just thought I would share, I'll be SHOCKED if somebody actually does more than bolt-ons save for HalfPint.
The price was $1200-$1500 and compared to high end units like AEM's system or Electromotives TEC 3 this is CHEAP. Its also plug-n-play and no hacking.
For a competitive Phase 5 car you'll need some sort of aftermarket engine management.
Phase 5 was developled for 500-550hp, but to be competitive in NHRA Sport FWD, you need 600hp at least depending on the cars weight. In fact Steve Lockett's Neon is around 2400lbs and has run 9.84@148 and he makes about 600hp and change.
I mention his car because its automatic...
Jason Hunt's '00 Civic Si is 2515lbs and has the class record at 9.54@154
Kindles car has F.A.S.T which cost twice as much and I believe Erica's car has the same unit.
Sorry but you can't make that kind of power and control it well with fuel pressure regulators...
Im not sure how much Hahn's Port Fueler system will support and its around $500 total seperately or available with Hahn's turbo kits.
Speaking of Hahn there Ecotec car has run 11.44 at the NOPI World Finals in Norwalk. I believe that was still on the 16G turbocharger.
If I do build a Phase 5 car it will be pretty much stock engine with Hahn kit, rods, pistons, maybe CNC'ed head and aftermarket cams, but stock intake manifold, throttle body, etc.
Think I can get about 400hp somewhere over 20psi on a Super 20G turbo. Maybe hit it with 100hp of nitrous and maybe get 500+hp
But you have to start someplace and I need the rest of the money for suspension and transmission upgrades.
Anyway I just thought I would share, I'll be SHOCKED if somebody actually does more than bolt-ons save for HalfPint.
11-03-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
In the press released to SEMA 2005 Ecotec was listed as supported.
The price was $1200-$1500 and compared to high end units like AEM's system or Electromotives TEC 3 this is CHEAP. Its also plug-n-play and no hacking.
The price was $1200-$1500 and compared to high end units like AEM's system or Electromotives TEC 3 this is CHEAP. Its also plug-n-play and no hacking.
Tec 3 isn't much more thant 1200 bux man. 1200 bux is about standard for standalone EMS. I have seen Tec 3 kits for ~$2000 bux and thats all configured ect.
If the kit is fully setup for the Ecotec and it's 1200 bux thats a sweet deal right there.
11-03-2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ExHondaMan
I wonder if that address is for like a public building or whatever. I work no more then 5 mins away from there. Maybe Ill run over on lunch one day and check it out.
I believe that place is next door to SVC motorsports! check it out, Jay!
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