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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Future for Cobalts?

What do you guys think is in store for the Cobalts in the near future. What improvements do you think Chevrolet could incorporate or imporve upon?

My only gripe from test driving a 2006 SS is the seats, they dont seem to fit the user that well and provide as much support as I would like around corners.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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I think AWD would be nice, but then again I wouldn't be one of those people paying $30k+ for an economy car. Although the evo's and STI's are nice cars, I would never pay $30k+ for them, because in the end...it's still just an economy car. Take a long ride in one and let me know how you feel when you get out...same goes for the cobalt...lol

Honestly, I couldn't ask for anything more out of my 2.4. It gets me to work, has a nice sound system (better than the GTO....lol) and has some pep when needed.

I'm sure most of the guys on here are itching for a turbo though...
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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I don't believe you going to see much change at all. There will be a body style update. They already put in the newer radios, so those won't change. It will still be a FWD Delta, except the Delta platform will recieve some chassis updates (Delta 2) that will pretty much be invisible.

The powertrains will probably be the only change. There will still be the L61. As for other engines, I don't know. I would like to see the LNF replace the LSJ and LE5 completely. Idealy, I would like to see the LE5 replace the L61, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
I don't believe you going to see much change at all. There will be a body style update. They already put in the newer radios, so those won't change. It will still be a FWD Delta, except the Delta platform will recieve some chassis updates (Delta 2) that will pretty much be invisible.

The powertrains will probably be the only change. There will still be the L61. As for other engines, I don't know. I would like to see the LNF replace the LSJ and LE5 completely. Idealy, I would like to see the LE5 replace the L61, but I don't think that's going to happen.

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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GMPP has released some interesting stuff for the Cobalt. Recently they tried an intake (not much for gains from what I hear). They also have stage kits for the supercharged SS. I'd like to see them try to compete with Scion a little more. They offer quality parts from the company that are otherwise only available in the aftermarket. It's not likely, but it would be nice.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PirateChris
What do you guys think is in store for the Cobalts in the near future. What improvements do you think Chevrolet could incorporate or imporve upon?

My only gripe from test driving a 2006 SS is the seats, they dont seem to fit the user that well and provide as much support as I would like around corners.
yeah the seats are horrible, i think my cavalier seats are better. But I heard the seats conform to your ass after a while and holds you better....like an ass grove.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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GM will replace the SS/SC badge for an SRT badge

True story
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
GM will replace the SS/SC badge for an SRT badge

True story

lol...please explain Adam
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
It will still be a FWD Delta, except the Delta platform will recieve some chassis updates (Delta 2) that will pretty much be invisible.
kind off .....we should also at some point get the fully independent rear the Astra got this year . I wouldnt look for the twist beam to stay around too much longer , though it may last in the US until Delta2(2010) .

The powertrains will probably be the only change. There will still be the L61. As for other engines, I don't know. I would like to see the LNF replace the LSJ and LE5 completely. Idealy, I would like to see the LE5 replace the L61, but I don't think that's going to happen.
2.2 I can easiely see going direct injection . The euro 2.2 has already done this . There is a gas/electric Hybrid engine with a year from now coming to the Cobalt . LE5 doesnt appear to going anywhere .
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
kind off .....we should also at some point get the fully independent rear the Astra got this year . I wouldnt look for the twist beam to stay around too much longer , though it may last in the US until Delta2(2010) .



2.2 I can easiely see going direct injection . The euro 2.2 has already done this . There is a gas/electric Hybrid engine with a year from now coming to the Cobalt . LE5 doesnt appear to going anywhere .
Will there be power gains from direct injection? This is my first fuel injected car so i dont knwo much about it.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Red06LS
Will there be power gains from direct injection? This is my first fuel injected car so i dont knwo much about it.

yes and no, it allows for more exact engine management, it's better for fuel mileage than power, but MPG and HP are two sides of the same coin, being efficent is being efficent.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
lol...please explain Adam
Well it's quite simple...

GM realized how cool the SRT-4 was and now that they are technically discontinued, GM wants to use this name as a marketing tool. Apearantly SS does nothing for people. They will eventually change the name to SRT.

Also, GM will eventually change the Z08 model name to STi just cause...no reason needed.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Will there be Si and GTI models too?
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Blur
Will there be Si and GTI models too?
You smart asses....

Anyway, I forgot to say, the Flex Fuel engine will probably become an option too, I think it's the L45 or somthing like that.

A direct injected L61 is a good idea, but it would be a totally different engine due a totally different head design.

It would get rid of all that silly EGR/SAI emmisions stuff, and would be a great tuner.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
You smart asses....

Anyway, I forgot to say, the Flex Fuel engine will probably become an option too, I think
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not going to happen. i bugged gm with this question the last 2 years. the small engine is just not worth it. Chevy concentrates on larger engine/cars for E85.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
Well it's quite simple...

GM realized how cool the SRT-4 was and now that they are technically discontinued, GM wants to use this name as a marketing tool. Apearantly SS does nothing for people. They will eventually change the name to SRT.

Also, GM will eventually change the Z08 model name to STi just cause...no reason needed.

LOL...well if chevy was really concerned with selling cars, they could just slap some toyota badges on and sell them like hot cakes...even if the cars turn out to be major POS', people with still buy them
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
You smart asses....A direct injected L61 is a good idea, but it would be a totally different engine due a totally different head design..
Like the LNF , only the head and pistons would change . The LNF shortblock is a LSJ shortblock with specific pistons and the 58x reluctor wheel on the crank for the new style crank sensor << Im pretty sure the LSJ got the new style crank sensor in 07 .

Will there be power gains from direct injection? This is my first fuel injected car so i dont knwo much about it.
The DI 2.2 GM already has is rated at 155 hp . I dont remember the exact TQ spec ...doh!

Theres no ecotec flexfuel planned , like I said a hybrid 2.2(LAP) is coming .
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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I want to see new threads on the seats. I like the seats, but I don't like the way they look. Mine's too plain. I know I got the base, but the rental I'm driving while the Cobalt is in the shop has really good-looking seats. It's a Lancer ES.
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