GM is now looking for Aftermarket Tunes
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Youre the guy who works for and condones the stealership arent you? Way to take the wrong side, corporate america makes enough money without ******** like you. If you are smart you reflash the PCM in the event of an accident, you tell the stealership not to touch your ****** car until you get your laptop hooked up because you want to (insert random story here). Lets not forget, the stealership has to prove your car effed up because of the modification (Warn Act) so if your car breaks down, you obviously have it towed to your house first for a reflash and then to the stealership. Cmon dude, **** like that NEVER happens where you have aboslutely no rights to your car before the stealership can get their hands on it. And for those of you who think Im jumping on this guy's ***** for no reason, take a look at some of his other posts.
lulz.. saturn FTW doesn't apply to me..
and not to mention i love my dealership .. they help me out whenever possible.. this is the 3rd saturn we've serviced there and the second one bought there..
one of the service guys helped me out with my header/ dp install it all really depends.. the guys at my dealership couldn't tell the front from the rear bumper
well like 2 can.. but they're the ones i'm friends with lol
and not to mention i love my dealership .. they help me out whenever possible.. this is the 3rd saturn we've serviced there and the second one bought there..
one of the service guys helped me out with my header/ dp install it all really depends.. the guys at my dealership couldn't tell the front from the rear bumper
well like 2 can.. but they're the ones i'm friends with lol
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Hmm....I wonder if my warranty is still good.....HAHAHAHAHA yeah right. Yo honestly, GM warranties are bs on cars like ours. Dealerships don't give two craps about it and look for anything to void them.
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Yeah stock tunes are crap, and the 07s stutter and stall with stage 2 on some cars. They can take their 100,000 mile warranty and shove it. It just makes them scrutinize the cars more because they need to keep costs down.
The 3yr/36000 was a better warranty because they were happy to fix stuff, now they just penny pinch and point fingers. On my GTO they would not fix the issues I had with my cruise control blowing my fuse when the A/C was on, and they told me it was because I took off my catalytic converters....................
Like the "Have you ever floored the car?" question. They consider passing another car racing because the engines weren't meant to be floored.......but they havea PERFORMANCE DIVISION plaque on the car.
The 3yr/36000 was a better warranty because they were happy to fix stuff, now they just penny pinch and point fingers. On my GTO they would not fix the issues I had with my cruise control blowing my fuse when the A/C was on, and they told me it was because I took off my catalytic converters....................
Like the "Have you ever floored the car?" question. They consider passing another car racing because the engines weren't meant to be floored.......but they havea PERFORMANCE DIVISION plaque on the car.
Im GM and I own a pet store. You come in and buy a turtle from me. I give you my word that the turtle will live and be as normal as a turtle can be for a month. After 3 weeks goes by you come back in and your turtle is walking sideways and not feeling well. I look at the turtle and you cut one of his legs off for whatever reason. I say sorry I cant help you and you get pissed. So i'm the bad guy?
I want you to think about the catalytic converter statement you posted. Im not saying it has anything to do with the a/c but just think of it this way.
Im GM and I own a pet store. You come in and buy a turtle from me. I give you my word that the turtle will live and be as normal as a turtle can be for a month. After 3 weeks goes by you come back in and your turtle is walking sideways and not feeling well. I look at the turtle and you cut one of his legs off for whatever reason. I say sorry I cant help you and you get pissed. So i'm the bad guy?
Im GM and I own a pet store. You come in and buy a turtle from me. I give you my word that the turtle will live and be as normal as a turtle can be for a month. After 3 weeks goes by you come back in and your turtle is walking sideways and not feeling well. I look at the turtle and you cut one of his legs off for whatever reason. I say sorry I cant help you and you get pissed. So i'm the bad guy?
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FTW!!!!
I dont worry anyways. My dealership is very mod friendly. Hell they try and sell me aftermarket parts when I go in
FTW!!!!
I dont worry anyways. My dealership is very mod friendly. Hell they try and sell me aftermarket parts when I go in
I want you to think about the catalytic converter statement you posted. Im not saying it has anything to do with the a/c but just think of it this way.
Im GM and I own a pet store. You come in and buy a turtle from me. I give you my word that the turtle will live and be as normal as a turtle can be for a month. After 3 weeks goes by you come back in and your turtle is walking sideways and not feeling well. I look at the turtle and you cut one of his legs off for whatever reason. I say sorry I cant help you and you get pissed. So i'm the bad guy?
Im GM and I own a pet store. You come in and buy a turtle from me. I give you my word that the turtle will live and be as normal as a turtle can be for a month. After 3 weeks goes by you come back in and your turtle is walking sideways and not feeling well. I look at the turtle and you cut one of his legs off for whatever reason. I say sorry I cant help you and you get pissed. So i'm the bad guy?
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From: Ft Lauderdale
They have fixed several things for me & Said nothing about my Mods besides wow
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I personally love it when i get to work on a car that has been modded.
But since warrenty work usually pays less time, thats the reasons most techs, dont even wanna deal with it. Hence the reason they try and bypass the whole warrenty deal.
But since warrenty work usually pays less time, thats the reasons most techs, dont even wanna deal with it. Hence the reason they try and bypass the whole warrenty deal.
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technically not true.
if GM deems your modifications enough to no longer garuntee the reliability of your powertrain, it can be completely voided.
you guys can wave your mag/moss around all you want, if they want to void you, they can.
oh sure, you can get a lawyer, and play that whole game....but everyone makes that sound like you just make a phonecall and suddenly rainbows fly out your ass and everythings great again.
but in reality, its likely to cost you more in fees to really fight it, and wasted time and effort, than the parts are worth.
if GM deems your modifications enough to no longer garuntee the reliability of your powertrain, it can be completely voided.
you guys can wave your mag/moss around all you want, if they want to void you, they can.
oh sure, you can get a lawyer, and play that whole game....but everyone makes that sound like you just make a phonecall and suddenly rainbows fly out your ass and everythings great again.
but in reality, its likely to cost you more in fees to really fight it, and wasted time and effort, than the parts are worth.
technically not true.
if GM deems your modifications enough to no longer garuntee the reliability of your powertrain, it can be completely voided.
you guys can wave your mag/moss around all you want, if they want to void you, they can.
oh sure, you can get a lawyer, and play that whole game....but everyone makes that sound like you just make a phonecall and suddenly rainbows fly out your ass and everythings great again.
but in reality, its likely to cost you more in fees to really fight it, and wasted time and effort, than the parts are worth.
if GM deems your modifications enough to no longer garuntee the reliability of your powertrain, it can be completely voided.
you guys can wave your mag/moss around all you want, if they want to void you, they can.
oh sure, you can get a lawyer, and play that whole game....but everyone makes that sound like you just make a phonecall and suddenly rainbows fly out your ass and everythings great again.
but in reality, its likely to cost you more in fees to really fight it, and wasted time and effort, than the parts are worth.
can they void the entire engine/tranny portion for something as minor as a tune or a CAI or exhaust...you betcha!!! although as anomalous stated...you can fight it but it will be cheaper not to...
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From: bristol, wi 53104
your right...but there are diff parts to your warrenty...such as the electrical, or your interior, the body, headlights, trunk functionality, suspension, brakes, powertrain....etc...if they deem you have put too much power into your engine...they will have a VERY hard time proving that contributed to your back seat coming apart at the seems or your trunk not opening right...
can they void the entire engine/tranny portion for something as minor as a tune or a CAI or exhaust...you betcha!!! although as anomalous stated...you can fight it but it will be cheaper not to...
can they void the entire engine/tranny portion for something as minor as a tune or a CAI or exhaust...you betcha!!! although as anomalous stated...you can fight it but it will be cheaper not to...
