ok so my brother owns a 2001 VW GTI VR6 5speed. it is 100% straight piped and he has a better than stock air filter. ive raced him before but i used to drive a GMC sonoma ext cab 4.3vortec. he smoked the **** outta that truck and we started that race by me just going and him reacting to me. i own a 2.2ls now with mods in sig. i have a buddy at work who thinks that generation of GTI's are slow, but im not sure what the outcome will be. Thoughts anyone. stock tires on my car still btw.

 

-Turbo compressor
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- Power: SAE and 110 kW , 150 HP @ 5,700 rpm; 155 ft lb , 210 Nm @ 1,750 rpm

on paper looks pretty close, since you're probably pushing 160-170 or so?

 

wtf?

that gen gti has 180hp not 150 and the turbo one will smoke a 2.2. He has the vr6 though, which has a v6 (maybe inline 6? its a 6 either way) and i beleive about 200hp.

 

HAHA no way he is pushing that much... its a 2.2 auto... hes pushing about 125 if that

 

i think the gti will take you. the vr6 is more than 150hp (they are quite fast actualy), and there is no way a 2.2l with a 2.4l intake and sc exaust is at 160-170hp.

 

just looks ups the specs on a site, guess it was either wrong model or just bullshit.

 

^^nno you really are just an idiot....

 

was lookin at the gains from just stock listed hp on an ls, just my guess, if he had some sweet decals i would say over 180

 

oh and the vr6 is actualy an interesting motor, its a 30 degree v6 but uses one cylender head. its the best compremise size wise between a straight 6 and v6.

 

dude that is at the flywheel!!! lol plus its for a 5 speed at 6000k... hes not even pushing 130... I have a full aftermarket exhaust (header, dp, and catback) and intake and im only at 132... hes not pushing 160-170

 

wait what? it's a v6 with a single cylinder bank? that's strange...

 

dont have the 2.4 mani yet

yes ive been in his car many times and hell it is fast. hits 140 with ease, vr6 is not inline, it is just a different angle than the 45 angle of just a V-6. also another attribute im leaning on is age. yes age, his car has been put through the ropes, he drives like a crazy man in other words. totaled it 3 times at that . and has a god awful amount of mileage compared to my 14500. as HP rating i used a gtech pro for like 5 runs and it came up with 126whp all 5 times when i was stock. add CAI and Exhuast. which is prolly not much but i can tell you that i can feel the difference with those two on there. i have no clue which way this race will go but im pretty optimistic about it, i have raed once before when i was stock. me vs a 2000 civic DX 5speed with cat-back/CAI, beat him by literally 4-5 car lengths.

yeh i got one DC Sports decal i think that was round 30 ponies at the crank if im not mistaken

realize that the 07's stock are the fastest, or am i wrong in this way of thinking?

 

zomg the e-thugs hurt mah feerings

im talking about both flywheels, got no idea what it is stock to the wheels, never entered my mind to get a 13,000 car dynoed

 

nah the 07s are not faster than the 06... the only real difference is that the 07s have the ss/sc header... thats all

 

But isnt the HP rating from factory different?

 

nope/... 143 to the flywheel, same at 06

 

hmm my car was rated 148 to the flywheel..? soemone else tell me im wrong so i stop arguing haha

 

lol im telling you... your only making about 115 to the wheels and about 143-145 to the flywheel... its only like 2-3 hp more than the 06 because of the ss/sc header... but its rated the same

problem solved lol btw sorry for soundin like a jerk lol im in a bad mood

 

aww i didnt think you sounded like a jerk, its best to have the facts as facts right, so by all means shut me down when im wrong but you did say its only 2-3 more than the 06 sooooooo im gonna have to say the 07's are faster than the 06's. hehe. anyhow i have also heard the tuning is different in the cars. 07's being better in that regard, true or false?

 

false.. neither car has tuning... lol... if one car will be supported so will the other.. they are working on the 06s though at the moment.. ( i have sent in my info...) but as far as one being faster than the 06s its not true lol a few more flywheel dont mean crap lol

 

i think he means the stock tune.....

 

CORRECT

 

hmm that much i have no idea honestly.. i wouldnt think so...

 

most v6 engines use a block angle between 60 and 90 degrees. vw built the vr6 at a 30 degree angle for packaging, the motor is very narrow, not much wider than a 4 cyl, and not that much longer. its quite a nice design for vw as it easily dropped into the cars they had previously built for 4 cyls. it also saves on parts cost as you have one head with 2 cams (instead of 2 heads with 4 cams), i head gasket, ect. however like everything newer and vw its a bitch to work ok, ie the timing chain, its at the back of the motor, you need to pull the tranny out to change it (needs doing at 200k km).

 

even if it is different it wont be enough to make any difference in a race. 2-3 horsepower will do nothing for you in a race unless you are racing two 50hp geos.