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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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I can just imagine the look on the dealerships face when you ask them to take out the Saleen focus for a test drive and use the NoS That says a alot about this car......

Its just a bit impractical from all angles thats all. I like the SVT Focus, I dont like this though.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
I can just imagine the look on the dealerships face when you ask them to take out the Saleen focus for a test drive and use the NoS That says a alot about this car......

Its just a bit impractical from all angles thats all. I like the SVT Focus, I dont like this though.
Agreed. I think this is a huge disappointment for Ford and even more so for the Saleen name.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006ArrivalBlueSS
Agreed. I think this is a huge disappointment for Ford and even more so for the Saleen name.
I agree as well.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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I can just imagine the look on the dealerships face when you ask them to take out the Saleen focus for a test drive and use the NoS

That would be hilarius!!!!!!
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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fast, but still UGLY...
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006ArrivalBlueSS
Did you notice what car is MISSING from this list?? I wonder why???

http://www.saleen.com/n2o_focus_performance.htm

BTW, Speed Mag tested this car along with the Cobalt SS/SC, SRT-4 and RSX-S and it came in dead last, not to mention the car dynoed at 186 whp and 118 whp without the bottle. Pathetic!!!
I guess Ford assumes their Focus with it's bottle will be able to destroy an SS so there's no need to compare...what a laugh that is . If they're rated correctly I could almost keep up to the damned thing in my LS w/o nitrous and my car wouldn't cost anywhere near that in USD.

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Yeah there is one in charleston here for $31000! The guy at the dealership said it was real sweet, as I was laughing at it coming in last place in the Speed Magazine. I told him it was still slow even with the juice, that by7 the way voids your warranty once it's hooked up, and he got all huffy and walked away. Loser!
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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The answer, my friends is cash... Saleen/Ford is cashing in on wannabe "enthusiasts" who say WOW! It's more expensive so it must be better and sticking the Saleen badge on a half-assed upgrade job to prey on the weak of heart/strong of wallet who don't know true standards of performance.

As many of you have said the Focus was an ugly car to begin with, but when Ford and Saleen saw a relatively untapped market for an upgradeable compact, all that went through their collective heads was "CHA CHING!"

I'm so sorry to see Saleen sell out like this and I hope Lingenfelter (God rest John's soul) would never do the same.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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I think even John would be embarrassed.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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It may be ugly, and it may be slow, but it's handling is superb. In many reviews I've read about the Saleen focus, they've all said it out handles the evo. Therefore, I like it. I do agree that nitrous from the factory is pretty stupid, especially since they give you something you cant use or your warranty's gone. You'd think Saleen would be smart and supercharge the ****** thing. And hey, if it was supercharged then Ford would actually be able to compete in the domestic compact market.

So even from a Focus fan, I'll admit it's a disapointment.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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it really voids your warranty ifyou use the n2o? how is that possible.....i see possible law suits on the way.......
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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it really voids your warranty ifyou use the n2o? how is that possible.....i see possible law suits on the way.......
Not only that. The claim of 250 hp is dependant on the size of the bottle you use. Remember, this thing is only prepped for n2o. It doesn't actually come with bottle or tubes!!! AND, it's WOT activated only which is even stupider!!
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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ohhhhhh i thought it CAME with n2o........how gay

damn, its bad when even Saleen will throw themselves at the ricer world....ick
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Quick question "RockTheSVT"

Does the SVT have the same crash cell thats in my Mazda? I dont know too much about the SVT, but I really like what I have seen on the road. They tidy up REAL nice. I know Volvo designed the crash cell for the 3 and euro focus, which they also use in the s40. It makes for nice handling. All in all s40, Mazda 3 and SVT focus are awesome cars, this Saleen is a swing and a miss. Perhaps the handling is good, its too bad you cant go fast enough to find out for real. Whats going on over at Saleen...
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006ArrivalBlueSS
Not only that. The claim of 250 hp is dependant on the size of the bottle you use. Remember, this thing is only prepped for n2o. It doesn't actually come with bottle or tubes!!! AND, it's WOT activated only which is even stupider!!
It DOES actually come with a bottle and lines. All you have to do, Is, And I quote Focus Fanatic Magazine:"Connect one last bit of wire, and Fill the bottle."
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Road and Track Speed did a comparo with the SS/SC, SRT-4, Saleen Focus and the RSX-S.

Focus came in last and with the nitrous it was only putting down 171 WHP. So 250 HP is BS.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zinner
Road and Track Speed did a comparo with the SS/SC, SRT-4, Saleen Focus and the RSX-S.

Focus came in last and with the nitrous it was only putting down 171 WHP. So 250 HP is BS.
Talk about a deja vue!!

QUOTE: "Did you notice what car is MISSING from this list?? I wonder why???

http://www.saleen.com/n2o_focus_performance.htm

BTW, Speed Mag tested this car along with the Cobalt SS/SC, SRT-4 and RSX-S and it came in dead last, not to mention the car dynoed at 186 whp and 118 whp without the bottle. Pathetic!!!"
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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My 05 honda si look way better then that car but nothing can beat a cobalt ss/sc i got 18 g's for my 05 honda si chevy couldn't beat that price. but im happy
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Saleen Focus = high resale value.
Honda = low resale value.
??????
Last time I checked focus were worth a lot less than a similar honda...
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by zinner
Road and Track Speed did a comparo with the SS/SC, SRT-4, Saleen Focus and the RSX-S.

Focus came in last and with the nitrous it was only putting down 171 WHP. So 250 HP is BS.
Saleen website says its 225hp with n20, not 250.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 02:37 AM
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Then Saleen is lying through its teeth, and just swindling idiots out of their money. But then, P.T. Barnum once said, "Never let a sucker keep his money." So if they can actually sell that Pile(and make an actual profit), They've earned it.
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
Quick question "RockTheSVT"

Does the SVT have the same crash cell thats in my Mazda? I dont know too much about the SVT, but I really like what I have seen on the road. They tidy up REAL nice. I know Volvo designed the crash cell for the 3 and euro focus, which they also use in the s40. It makes for nice handling. All in all s40, Mazda 3 and SVT focus are awesome cars, this Saleen is a swing and a miss. Perhaps the handling is good, its too bad you cant go fast enough to find out for real. Whats going on over at Saleen...

I dont think so, but I could be wrong. I'm not really sure.
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Oh and when you buy the Saleen Focus, you're really just buying a name.
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 01:10 AM
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Yep, That's about it.
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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I think it woulda been a sick ride if it had FI, and rear disc brakes. Rousch, however has a stage 3 focus, with a turbo. It's badass. 230hp. I read about it in R&T a while back ago, but have yet to hear about it again. Supposedly they were actually producing them..Hmmmm
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