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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 02:37 PM
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Stock Auto Trans

I'm just wondering what can the stock auto tran hold hp and trq wise
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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We have a local guy running a ZZP turbo kit on his auto 2.4 and its a freight train Its been over a couple of years I believe and he still has it
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Do you know what his numbers are
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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He's on here too, his name is Mindrot, He will be able to give you more info on his setup lol
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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I was told way back in 08, by a good friend of mine, and service manager, that the autos in the balts are very tough. He said I would end up killing the 2.2 before I killed the trans. I do not know if this is true, but he has been the service manager for a dealership for over 20 years.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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I've heard they can hold up but then I've heard they are weak
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 05:19 PM
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Although to be fair, ive seen them hold up to alot more if you dont abuse the **** out of it. It's primarily the clutch packs that suffer the most abuse more then anything. The torque converters are 4L60E/65E converters which are capable of supporting alot higher torque.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Although to be fair, ive seen them hold up to alot more if you dont abuse the **** out of it. It's primarily the clutch packs that suffer the most abuse more then anything. The torque converters are 4L60E/65E converters which are capable of supporting alot higher torque.
Okay so by this chart when will the trans fail
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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rated to 325 ft*lbs...
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 2010CobaltLTfan
Okay so by this chart when will the trans fail
It's hard to say exactly when a trans will fail, im also not certain why the maximum engine torque is so much lower then the gearbox torque. I know that there is some factor of torque multiplication you have to condition through the converter but it should only be on the order of 1.3 -1.5x on a stock GM converter. I wouldnt trust it over 275-300ft lbs without running raybestos zpack clutches and an upgraded chain. Also dont know much about ZZP's transmissions if you do decide to upgrade. I know a local place here in south jersey that does performance FWD gm transmissions on a regular basis, and their trannys are down right stellar. They shift so fast you dont even realize the car went into the next gear, it feels like a continuous motion of acceleration. So there is alot that can be said about how much GM 4t trannys can be built up.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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Okay thanks for all the info
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:41 PM
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Okay thanks for all the info
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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Not to hijack your thread, but do they make a stall converter for them?
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Not to hijack your thread, but do they make a stall converter for them?
Haha your good that could be useful for me too
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by redcobalt08
Not to hijack your thread, but do they make a stall converter for them?
Since they use the same converter as the 4L60E/65E it is very well possible that an over the shelf performance converter is readily available from yank or precision or TCI, but I wouldnt know specifics, the splines and overall converter diameter could vary from model to model. There are alot of companys out there that will do custom converters for any setup as long as you give them specs. I paid 325 for a custom built converter for a drag honda a few years back from precision of new hampton, the same folks that did jay lenos car. And they will do converters for just about anything with whatever options you want.

Racing / Stall Torque Converters by Precision of New Hampton, Inc.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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This is a pic of my gpnh 3k stall converter I had for my honda....



and i just received my new converter from alliance torque converters for my SS for my supercharger swap, its a rebuilt OEM specced converter built to tighter tolerances.

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