General Cobalt General Cobalt, Pursuit, and Ion talk. Post specific discussions in the forums below

supercharged vs. turbocharged question?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-16-2011, 09:33 PM
  #1  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
ss slobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-10
Location: Killeen Texas
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
supercharged vs. turbocharged question?

ok so i have a 2006 ss 2.0l with 88,xxx miles and theres a dealer that has a 2009 turbo for sale with 32,xxx miles and i want to trade for it. im wondering if cobalts start experiencing bad problems with high mileage or anything and not so much personal preference but is it worth it to have a turbo cobalt over the super? any help opinions or anything cuz im a bit stumped on wether its worth it. i drove it and i like it alot but will that "new" feeling with having a turbo eventually wear off or what? thanks guys!!
ss slobalt is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 09:37 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
northvibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-07-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14,124
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
seats are better
suspension is better
mounts are better
knuckles and axles are better
better brakes
stock vs stock its faster
both are pretty good reliability wise

How much do they want for the 2009?
northvibe is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 09:37 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
08ShowbaltLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-01-09
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 971
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
definitely do it. the turbo handles better, looks better, seats are better, motor is better and has way more potential than the sc. how much were they asking for it?

woah haha almost identical post!
08ShowbaltLS is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 09:39 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
northvibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-07-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14,124
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by 08ShowbaltLS
definitely do it. the turbo handles better, looks better, seats are better, motor is better and has way more potential than the sc. how much were they asking for it?

woah haha almost identical post!
WHAT?! way more potential? In what regards? Power? no. The highest HP cobalts are LSJ engines with turbo's on them. But as a DD or weekend warrior, yes.
northvibe is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 09:39 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
PenguinPIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-02-05
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 4,147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by northvibe
seats are better
suspension is better
mounts are better
knuckles and axles are better
better brakes
stock vs stock its faster
both are pretty good reliability wise

How much do they want for the 2009?
only if it is a non-G85 model

but definitely go for the turbo if the price difference is not too big
PenguinPIE is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:07 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
denlou's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-06-06
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I drove a TC when I was thinking about trading, the thing was gutless to a very gently modified LSJ in the bottom end (for obvious reasons).

I've got a 06 LSJ with 5000 miles on the motor, so I'll probably be holding onto it for a while. Besides that RPD in the new Cobalts looks so tasteless, though the suspension does rock but I can swap that out easy enough.
denlou is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:09 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
northvibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-07-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14,124
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by PenguinPIE
only if it is a non-G85 model

but definitely go for the turbo if the price difference is not too big
me friend with a g85 LSJ likes my seats over his..BUT his are leather with heat. Mine have better bolsters so depends on what you like.
northvibe is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:10 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Studmuffin02's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-15-10
Location: Colorado
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Do it!!!!!!
Studmuffin02 is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:10 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
northvibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-07-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14,124
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by denlou
I drove a TC when I was thinking about trading, the thing was gutless to a very gently modified LSJ in the bottom end (for obvious reasons).

I've got a 06 LSJ with 5000 miles on the motor, so I'll probably be holding onto it for a while. Besides that RPD in the new Cobalts looks so tasteless, though the suspension does rock but I can swap that out easy enough.
Did you drive a BRAND new one? They are weak until break in is done. No joke. I drove a friends stock broken in LNF the night before I bought mine and when I drove mine with 11 miles I was like...WTF this is weak.
northvibe is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:48 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Nighthawk243's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-07
Location: Pittsburgh, Pistolvania
Posts: 2,961
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
IIRC, the PCM limits boost during break in, no?
Nighthawk243 is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:53 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
ajjaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-09-08
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,654
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by northvibe
WHAT?! way more potential? In what regards? Power? no. The highest HP cobalts are LSJ engines with turbo's on them. But as a DD or weekend warrior, yes.
lsj has been around longer...noob
ajjaro is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 10:55 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
chris88z24's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-03-07
Location: NY
Posts: 14,148
Likes: 0
Received 70 Likes on 54 Posts
The T/C is the S/C without the powertrain quirks and a slightly less reliable engine.

Get it.
chris88z24 is offline  
Old 02-16-2011, 11:38 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
CanadianCobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-09
Location: Lethbridge, AB
Posts: 1,497
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ajjaro
lsj has been around longer...noob
LNF is limited by injector size. LSJ is not. I'm yet to see someone even be able to run straight E85 on an LNF.

Oh yea, noob.

Joel
CanadianCobalt is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 02:29 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
red06SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-10-08
Location: Richmond
Posts: 1,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ajjaro
lsj has been around longer...noob

which has absolutely no correlation to the lack of fueling options for the LNF...noob

lol

missed the above post before I submitted

Last edited by red06SC; 02-17-2011 at 02:29 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
red06SC is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 02:41 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
PenguinPIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-02-05
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 4,147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by northvibe
me friend with a g85 LSJ likes my seats over his..BUT his are leather with heat. Mine have better bolsters so depends on what you like.
yea the seats are subjective, but the recaros are not worse compare to TC seats
PenguinPIE is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 02:57 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
ramrod1337's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-19-10
Location: dayton ohio
Posts: 4,110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i went from an lsj to an lnf and im extremely happy, lnf feels a lot more solid tho ive never driven the coupe and you have tc and competition mode and the usb port the brembo brakes are a plus until they get wet, could just be mine but when its wet out my brakes blow, but yes it will wear off and you will want to go faster but thats why you add mods or gms1 its enough to wear tires down with the quickness
ramrod1337 is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 09:57 AM
  #17  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
ss slobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-10
Location: Killeen Texas
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by northvibe
seats are better
suspension is better
mounts are better
knuckles and axles are better
better brakes
stock vs stock its faster
both are pretty good reliability wise

How much do they want for the 2009?

well I love how stiff it feels and just the turbo sounds way better then the whine on the supercharger but hey that's me. an mine has 88,xxx miles ad they found a guy to buy mine for 12 grand and the '09 has 32,xxx miles and they want 15,499 for it and the guy said he can definitely come down on it. but it's missing the sub, some scratches all around the car and the decked says locked on it but the dealer said they can fix it. what's the stock psi for the T/C cuz it boosted at around 18 is that normal for the turbo?
ss slobalt is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 10:06 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Ph3lix_004's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-27-10
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 949
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ss slobalt
well I love how stiff it feels and just the turbo sounds way better then the whine on the supercharger but hey that's me. an mine has 88,xxx miles ad they found a guy to buy mine for 12 grand and the '09 has 32,xxx miles and they want 15,499 for it and the guy said he can definitely come down on it. but it's missing the sub, some scratches all around the car and the decked says locked on it but the dealer said they can fix it. what's the stock psi for the T/C cuz it boosted at around 18 is that normal for the turbo?
sounds like a great deal, very little price difference
Ph3lix_004 is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 10:07 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
northvibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-07-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14,124
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by ajjaro
lsj has been around longer...noob
youre a noob, you know the lnf has fueling issues you cant fully tune for? ya...true story. Hence the reason there is a 1000hp build book for the lsj and not the lnf.
northvibe is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 10:08 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
northvibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-07-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14,124
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by CanadianCobalt
LNF is limited by injector size. LSJ is not. I'm yet to see someone even be able to run straight E85 on an LNF.

Oh yea, noob.

Joel
its not injector size...... the stock ones could go to 500hp for sure. But you can make new ones, no one has asked a company to do so. VW di engines have upgradeable injectors.
northvibe is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:07 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
denlou's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-06-06
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So when is all this going to matter to the OP?

/pissing contest
denlou is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:10 PM
  #22  
corn gas ftw....
iTrader: (8)
 
ssblackstealth's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-08-09
Location: tyler, TX
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
turbo ftw.....
ssblackstealth is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:10 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joemaster70's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-14-09
Location: Villa Park, IL
Posts: 1,440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
just twincharge ur ss/sc ull get the best of both worlds plus ull be 1 of a kinda
Joemaster70 is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:11 PM
  #24  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
ss slobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-10
Location: Killeen Texas
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ph3lix_004
sounds like a great deal, very little price difference
yeah that's why I'm deciding itbut I didn't know if it was worth It or not
ss slobalt is offline  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:15 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
hunter19707's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-02-09
Location: The Buckeye State
Posts: 2,670
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I say it's your money, and you are the one that has to drive it. Do what you feel you will be happy with. BTW, I love my LNF and it is extremely fun to drive. It has around 32,000 miles as well.
hunter19707 is offline  


Quick Reply: supercharged vs. turbocharged question?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:41 AM.