That sounds like it is stock, the stock will boost right around 15psi but will vary a little in different weather conditions.

 

Dude, the guy said it was a better looking car than a SS/SC. That gives him zero cred. The rims and brembos up front look nicer but that is it. Oh besides better looking seats.

 

Thanks for showing who the true noob is!! Good job!!!

 

yeah it's all bone stock. and it's been pretty cool in our area lately which has been great for driving!! I just don't want that turbo feel to ware out as the car breaks in

 

yea the lnf does have way more potential. lets see: direct injection, vvt, genII block. the reason the lsj has the whp record (which isnt even high at all because all the ppl that own cobalts are cheapos) is because it has been around longer and because zzp started with the lsj. you arent going to make **** of power with the eaton and theres even guys making more power stock turbo 93 octane lnf than tvs e85 lsjs lol. the choice is clear...

 

^this^ the car has a small aftermarket, its going to take time, but the engine IS superior to the lsj...

 

srs? read above post^

 

Haaa ahah ..... I guess I'm your complete opposite because a pullied SC sounds like sex compared to the sneeze the TC makes .

Dude.... you are in denial if you listed DIRECT INJECTION as something that gives the LNF more potential than the LSJ. If you want big numbers .... a snail swapped LSJ is going to be it . DI is a bitch to work around .

Another thing you have to look at is powerband .... some LNF make big numbers.... for about 1000 rpm before they fall off a cliff. The LSJ's keep making power all the way to

There are guys on the stock eaton making over 300 wheel on corn so "aint going to make **** for power " isn't quite accurate .

BTW ....... I own an LNF ..... and it's a great car . But it's not like going from an SS/SC to SS/TC is a huge difference . Yeah there are things that are better but it's not like going from a base C6 to a Z06 8)

 

Didn't some company make two 1300hp LNFs and have them in a Sunfire and Cavalier and ran 7.70s? I definitely remember reading it and seeing some pictures while I was waiting to first get my 2010 in September but now I can't find a damn thing about it.

 

Spend the money that you would lose by trading your car in for a ZZP Turbo kit. You will have a turbo LSJ that no LNF could touch...

 

I think what most people are getting at is $100-$500 you can have 300hp/350tq... that called potential in my opionion. Obviously higher displacement the higher the maximum power potential will be, typically...

 

I've owned both. The S/C "feels" faster but its not as refined in terms of powertrain and handling. The T/C is definitely the better vehicle overall for a DD. If you can easily afford the $$$$ to do it, I'd upgrade. If not, enjoy that LSJ, that seat of the pants feel and save up for your cobalt replacement. Look at a Regal GS, a Camaro, Corvette, CTS, Verano GS (yes you read that right), or an ATS (coupe/sedan/vert/V). Best of luck, it's your money do what you like

 

and use it where? with what traction? and how much $ for maintenance... waste of money imo.

a full bolt on tc has useable ISH power. if you want more.... BUY MORE(rwd/awd)! my .02

 

well I was told there alot of problems with putting the twin charge kit or going straight turbo on a lsj. a local shop said they did it for a guy but it was a pain for some reason so he just swapped out motors and threw the LNF in or something. idk if that's true or possible if the engine bays have enough room but I love my orange and want something unique so I'm still tossing it around

 

Turboing an LSJ isn't hard ....twin charging I can't speak of because i have zero experience with that. Swapping an LNF into a SS/SC is about 1000 X more difficult than throwing a turn on the lsj . The LSJ is a pretty simple motor where as the lnf is 3 times more complicated with DI VVT and the high pressure fuel system.

 

well if it's that easy to throw a turbo on then I'm
in. I love the way they feel but twin charging would be real unique and twice th power!...I think lol

 

Twincharging is easy too..... If you ship the car to ZZP and let them install it lol. I wouldn't trust anyone but ZZP to tune it either .

Otherwise turbo swapping is your best bet . A properly tuned turbo LSJ is gunna take LNF fanboy's lunch money . Don't get me wrong ..... the LNF is a great motor and is so easy to make 330-340 wheel hp.... which is what people want for the most part . After 350 or so the stock turbo just doesn't have it .

 

i <3 my recaro's sorry the lnf seats dont compare at all lol

 

I agree ..... I miss my Recaro's

 

Exactly, I can't see the LNF getting upgradeable injectors with how few of them there are, at least not for a while. At this point in time it is limited by injector size, and I'll bank it will stay that way.

Joel

 

Why do people care about the lnf's injectors when only 2% will actually need to upgrade them. Keep in mind 90% of Cobalt SS cars just have typical bolt-on's and will not got any further then that.

 

Because people like to dream...

 

I'll agree with you when it's actually done and proven. Mmmk? Superior it is not, for now. Bang for your buck, yes, the lnf is better. Most certainly not superior. The engine has been out long enough. If it were truely superior, we'd probably know by now. Both are quality engines./thread!!

 

zzp is doing it













Noob

 

Link? And you people still don't seem to understand, that you CANNOT buy LNF injectors at this point regardless of if someone is planning to make them. Which makes it limited by injector size, there is a lot of stuff that people are suppsoed to do. Us LSJ guys were supposed to get a twin screw .

Joel