T/C or S/C
If your G6 is a v6, screw the cobalts man, build her up instead...
I would go with the T/C because of the following upgrades:
More power. The T/C has 260HP vs. the 200HP of the S/C. And for all those that say "get a turbo kit for the S/C", some people like to keep their cars stock and not spend $4K+ on a turbo kit that will void their warranty. There is something to be said for OEM design, reliability, and resale value.
More torque. The T/C has 260ft/lbs @ 2,000RPM vs 200ft/lbs at 4400 for the S/C model. Thats quite a big difference.
Much better brakes. The S/C has cast iron single piston calipers and rotors from a Malibu with solid rear discs. The T/C has 12.4" rotors with Brembo 4 piston calipers and larger vented rear discs.
The wing. The T/C models were available with the subtle rear spoiler from the regular Cobalt models instead of the tacky high rise wing that the S/C's have.
Handling. The SS T/C beat out the Honda S2000, Mitsubishi Evo X, and Subaru STi at Virginia International raceway, not to mention many other cars.
Transmission and clutch. GM upgraded the trans and clutch in the T/C models to take more power. Many people had problems with the stock clutches in the S/C models, so they put a much beefier one in the T/C models. It is said that the new clutch was able to make 800 passes using launch control without failure.
The S/C is still a good car, especially if you can find one for a good price. But if you're looking for the most capable vehicle, go with the T/C.
This man speaks the truth...thats why you gotta have both, and use the SS for the daily
More power. The T/C has 260HP vs. the 200HP of the S/C. And for all those that say "get a turbo kit for the S/C", some people like to keep their cars stock and not spend $4K+ on a turbo kit that will void their warranty. There is something to be said for OEM design, reliability, and resale value.
More torque. The T/C has 260ft/lbs @ 2,000RPM vs 200ft/lbs at 4400 for the S/C model. Thats quite a big difference.
Much better brakes. The S/C has cast iron single piston calipers and rotors from a Malibu with solid rear discs. The T/C has 12.4" rotors with Brembo 4 piston calipers and larger vented rear discs.
The wing. The T/C models were available with the subtle rear spoiler from the regular Cobalt models instead of the tacky high rise wing that the S/C's have.
Handling. The SS T/C beat out the Honda S2000, Mitsubishi Evo X, and Subaru STi at Virginia International raceway, not to mention many other cars.
Transmission and clutch. GM upgraded the trans and clutch in the T/C models to take more power. Many people had problems with the stock clutches in the S/C models, so they put a much beefier one in the T/C models. It is said that the new clutch was able to make 800 passes using launch control without failure.
The S/C is still a good car, especially if you can find one for a good price. But if you're looking for the most capable vehicle, go with the T/C.
nothing like power on demand with the SC... But if i Didnt own a SC I would buy.... NEITHER... If I did it all over again I'd go RWD or AWD for sure! Sink all the money you want into either cobalt and you still have understeer and traction issues.. Just my opinion.. I miss my Fireturd Formula...
Last edited by 08SSTCRD; Mar 17, 2010 at 07:11 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
So with the ZZP turbo upgrade and the head upgrade it wont catch a turbo'd LSJ? Let's just say with the right money the LNF will beat the LSJ.
it has springs intake exhaust wheels custom halo headlights
I would go with the T/C because of the following upgrades:
More power. The T/C has 260HP vs. the 200HP of the S/C. And for all those that say "get a turbo kit for the S/C", some people like to keep their cars stock and not spend $4K+ on a turbo kit that will void their warranty. There is something to be said for OEM design, reliability, and resale value.
The wing. The T/C models were available with the subtle rear spoiler from the regular Cobalt models instead of the tacky high rise wing that the S/C's have.
Transmission and clutch. GM upgraded the trans and clutch in the T/C models to take more power. Many people had problems with the stock clutches in the S/C models, so they put a much beefier one in the T/C models. It is said that the new clutch was able to make 800 passes using launch control without failure.
The S/C is still a good car, especially if you can find one for a good price. But if you're looking for the most capable vehicle, go with the T/C.
This man speaks the truth...thats why you gotta have both, and use the SS for the daily
More power. The T/C has 260HP vs. the 200HP of the S/C. And for all those that say "get a turbo kit for the S/C", some people like to keep their cars stock and not spend $4K+ on a turbo kit that will void their warranty. There is something to be said for OEM design, reliability, and resale value.
The wing. The T/C models were available with the subtle rear spoiler from the regular Cobalt models instead of the tacky high rise wing that the S/C's have.
Transmission and clutch. GM upgraded the trans and clutch in the T/C models to take more power. Many people had problems with the stock clutches in the S/C models, so they put a much beefier one in the T/C models. It is said that the new clutch was able to make 800 passes using launch control without failure.
The S/C is still a good car, especially if you can find one for a good price. But if you're looking for the most capable vehicle, go with the T/C.
This man speaks the truth...thats why you gotta have both, and use the SS for the daily

I figure both are great for the money if I can find a cheap ss/sc i should go for it but if i happen to have extra money i would lean towards the ss/tc. With bolt ons im sure the ss/sc will still be twice as fun as the G6V6
You can piece a kit together and get a custom manifold.....its been man.
Thats what everyone says but i guess the transmission can handle it or some ****, anyways if you go to g6performance.com and look at any turbo/supercharged thread your gonna get laughed at if you even mention it, people are trying there are just too many tuning/part reliability problems. Plus its gonna cost 3-5k for turbo, the guy who priced a custom one for me said 9k which is retarted
alot of great posts have been made, but if you are still interested, I can offer my opinion;
Fact: Right now the LSJ has 2+ more years* of aftermarket support going for it.
Fact: Right now the fastest and second fastest Cobalts on this site are:
#1 LSJ-twin turbo
#2 LNF
(* = LSJ 2005, LNF debuted in the '07 Solstice GXP, but wasn't released in the Cobalt till mid way through the 2008 model year)
I think that the fastest list isn't all LSJ cars, while there is so much less aftermarket support for the LNF says alot about potential.
IMHO, the torque numbers say alot, and torque numbers are often over shadowed by the "wow" factor of horsepower numbers - the LSJ seems to flatline around 200ft-lbs, but a stage1 LNF puts out 320ft-lbs...
If you're on a tight budget, this might be a factor;
newer = more expensive to insure
This all being said, it all depends on how fast you're wanting to be, or what kind of car you're wanting.
The LSJ cars are great cars, and can be had right now for around $5k less - depending on how patient you are to find the right deal - or how far you're willing to travel.
If you're wanting to have a no holds barred fast car, you might consider using a V8 '98-'02 Camaro or Firebird as you're starting point...
I have two classic Firebirds, and have been playing with higher powered GM DOHC fwd cars for about a decade - not because I thought they were better or faster, but because I could have some fun, while not going broke from buying fuel.
Although I liked the LSJ and LE5 from their debut, it was the LNF package that eventually lured me in to be an owner.
I hope I said something that you found to be helpful.
Good luck!
Fact: Right now the fastest and second fastest Cobalts on this site are:
#1 LSJ-twin turbo
#2 LNF
(* = LSJ 2005, LNF debuted in the '07 Solstice GXP, but wasn't released in the Cobalt till mid way through the 2008 model year)
I think that the fastest list isn't all LSJ cars, while there is so much less aftermarket support for the LNF says alot about potential.
IMHO, the torque numbers say alot, and torque numbers are often over shadowed by the "wow" factor of horsepower numbers - the LSJ seems to flatline around 200ft-lbs, but a stage1 LNF puts out 320ft-lbs...
If you're on a tight budget, this might be a factor;
newer = more expensive to insure
This all being said, it all depends on how fast you're wanting to be, or what kind of car you're wanting.
The LSJ cars are great cars, and can be had right now for around $5k less - depending on how patient you are to find the right deal - or how far you're willing to travel.
If you're wanting to have a no holds barred fast car, you might consider using a V8 '98-'02 Camaro or Firebird as you're starting point...
I have two classic Firebirds, and have been playing with higher powered GM DOHC fwd cars for about a decade - not because I thought they were better or faster, but because I could have some fun, while not going broke from buying fuel.
Although I liked the LSJ and LE5 from their debut, it was the LNF package that eventually lured me in to be an owner.
I hope I said something that you found to be helpful.
Good luck!
Last edited by soundjunky; Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM.
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