the better question is why not?
If epople want a manual, buy a manual. If people want an auto, buy an auto. Why limit us to one or the other? "This car should only be manual" is a dumb statement... it reduces the target audience, and it limits many of us who drive in traffic daily to not buying that car

 

im sure on the Z06 boards this same discussion is going on

 

^paddle shifters FTW. they may not have the same discussions going on their lol

 

lots of false info in this thread. and now i'm off to class

 

auto blows

 

Please don't compare a sports car to an econobox

 

I have been there lol. Sucks just as bad here during rush hour.

 

In all truth I hate automatics but... they are actually way better for a turbo than a manual is. think about most of the stock cars with turbos out there that came out before the sti's and evo's. you have the grand nationals and grand prix turbos. you could only get them in auto. plus when they are form the factory they can make the auto set up the best for the way the turbo works and you get the best out of it. and for all those saying a REAL car enthusiast drives a manual, than why are most of all the people out there with the old cars that are working on them put autos??? because they are great to have and if it is tuned right it is way better than any person that can shift a manual. no matter what you say.

 

love my auto TL but was so tempted to get the 6spd since it's the only model that comes w/ the BBK. almost got the 6spd but then remembered the main reason why i went w/ luxury as my next vehicle.

 

youve been on this board for like a week, please dont tell me what i can and cannot do.

am i comparing the performance of the 2 cars?... no im not. im comparing the thinking behind why there is no auto-option for either. same goes for the c5 z06, zr1 etc and a few other cars down the gm performance line-up. if GM is trying to build a performance, enthusiest-based car, they usually have their own niche in the car-world and most of those drivers want to experience a manual. hence no auto.

 

So just because you've been on here longer it means i can't voice my opinion?

You brought the C6 into the mix. Imagine how many more Z06 or ZR1 sales there would be if they could have been with a 6spd auto or god forbid a 7spd auto. 65%+ sales of base corvettes are with the 6A and not the MN6. What does that say? That people don't want manual's these days. If the cobalt turbo had the option of a 5spd manual and a 5spd auto i believe the automatic sales would dominate.

Automatics have come a long way and are right on par with there manual counterparts.

 

in theory you are right, and im not saying the sales of those vettes, our cars, or any GM that only comes in a manual wouldnt go up....of course they would. you are correct and i am not argueing that. but base corvettes are not what im talking about. of course, most of the sales of base corvettes are more for an auto. look at who is buying them... older people who have been wanting one their whole lives, or ppl that just want an awesome car to cruise etc. its the enthusiest that usually buys the z06 or zr1.....just as its the enthusiest that wants the SS Cobalt. more often than not, those ppl want the manual. its obvious that if there would be auto options for either mdel, that there would be more sales, thats common sense. but im just explaning the pattern GM seems to be going by as to why there isnt and thats my theory on it. not saying its right or wrong, but i dont mind it cause i'dve bought a manual anyways.

 

GM is first and foremost trying to sell cars - a lot of cars - and satisfying a niche market secondarily. I'm a little surprised myself that they don't offer an auto in the Z06/ZR1 and the SSTC; there may be emissions issues or some other thing that we aren't aware of.

 

maybe its not cost effective to produce those cars in an auto if they dont feel like itll sell. or maybe they arent confident that the auto tranny will hold up to the abuse of the FI motor (in the ss/tc). look at the problems ppl had with the GTP/sc autos a few years back. like you said, there is probably more to the story than we know.

 

Automatic Z06 just doesn't sound right to me. Almost all the people who want to buy that car are enthusiasts and most enthusiasts like to drive stick.

They already have an auto Vette with 400HP to satisfy the everyday person.

 

youre not going crazy, i remembered reading that too, they said the sedan version was gonna get an automatic (like the hhr ss has an automatic) guess they dropped it

autos are boring

i see this chick driving a ss/sc around by my work

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if you like manual, but dont want to worry about shifting, just get a car with DSG
wish the gti had more power though

 

did you read the thread at all? lol. The 4t45 is more than capable of taking the LNF's power...its used in the HHR already too

 

well im almost 100% sure that im the only Ls/TC automatic...i went in looking for the manual and there was none in stock and lets just say the salesman was a good salesman and i bought the auto...lol

 

You're very, very close. I would say it's more of a fuel economy thing. It has been said that turbos work pretty well with autos. Reason being that autos maintain a consistent load on the engine, which spins the turbo in a relatively consistent manner. Thus, no lag between shifts and no need for NLS.

Trouble is. This car is more of a street-legal-autocrosser/road racer than a drag racer IMO. Without GM spending an ASSTON of money coming up with an auto that downshifts properly... I'm just not seeing an auto being a good fit for the marketing of this particular car. I could be wrong and maybe a whole lot of people would buy it. But I tend to think that GMPD made their choice clear when they tuned on the Nurburgring and not the dragstrip.

 

isnt celicacobalt a 2.2 auto? He might be a 2.4 auto, but he's definitely a turbo'd automatic

 

ya i did read it, thanks. im just throwin out possible scenerios. im just sayin just caus it is in the hhr doesnt mean it still couldnt be a problem. i would think more SS cobalt consumers would be racing and running their cars harder than hhr owners, so whos to say that they still dont think it could be a POSSIBLE problem. and i think what TLWiltman said is a very good point.

 

funny u say auto's are gay...my dad had a 1989 turbo trans am! that was a beast of a car! he loved every single moment he had it....that and the t-type and gn/gnxs are all auto...i completly understand where u coming from esp when u sit in traffic for a stupid new cowgirls stadium, lol jk but my girl cant drive stick and we saw a while back gm said they were also going to come out with a turbo auto sedan which would be perfect with our little girls in the back....but they didnt gay! ima just wait a year to get a sedan then find a turbo hhr auto wrecked and get the tranny and the nesseary stuff and do my own conversion.. thats unless i turbo mine or we get a tbss

 

Lets face it guys aurotragics are ghey and defending them is just pointing out to everyone that you are too embarrassed to just say you can't drive manual

 

And this is the truth.

Don't comment on drag cars having auto, dont say "it can be tuned to almost as quick"

Just nut up and admit you either can't drive a stick or you are too lazy to drive one in town.

 

yea the Slushbox Sux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i will never buy anouther automatic car as long as i live!!!