Why is it so fast?
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Well I guess I made the mistake of beleiving that if Chevy sells a car with supercharger badges all over it, it must be supercharged. Maybe I should have asked the dealer to let me turn screwdrivers on a car that I havent even bought. Im sure they would have been ok about letting me pull off that ridiculously oversized stock air box. Pretty easy to tell without removing anything when your inside the car and the boost gauge is absent. It was my mistake to not properly check to see if it was there, but why the hell should I have to if it was supposed to be there in the first place and is advertised as such.
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
I highlighted the dumb or impossible points in red so others don't think you have a clue what your talking about. Can't have people thinking false things, Ricers are born that way!
Just cold hard fact that most of that is not possible.
sorry for any hurt feelings, I really don't want to be mean or anything.
Well I guess I made the mistake of beleiving that if Chevy sells a car with supercharger badges all over it, it must be supercharged. Maybe I should have asked the dealer to let me turn screwdrivers on a car that I havent even bought. Im sure they would have been ok about letting me pull off that ridiculously oversized stock air box. Pretty easy to tell without removing anything when your inside the car and the boost gauge is absent. It was my mistake to not properly check to see if it was there, but why the hell should I have to if it was supposed to be there in the first place and is advertised as such.
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
Wow i wasn't gonna jump on your back cause i see that too much around here but you have a very skewed vision of reality. I believe due to your mistake on buying a 2.4 as an SS/SC has set you out to defend that purchase as buying some secret 2.4 w/ a secret invisible supercharger and secret electronic assisted brakes.
see previous locked thread
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-stories-54/2006-ss-supercharged-hmmmm-168945/
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-stories-54/2006-ss-supercharged-hmmmm-168945/
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I know you guys are going to try to pull the b.s card but I think that some of the engines are made diff...Still the same model but chevy did something to them...My 07 2.2 can almost keep up with the sc's from a roll...Im about half a car length behind... From get go the sc's zoom past me but from a roll Im not that far behind...was a prev owned car but as far as I know...no modsy, so this thread really caught my eye...and I know I hear a sc engine boost when I hit the gears right...I dont see one under the hood but when I hit my accel right ti does the super chrgr air release thing... any ideas?
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wow you guys with the s/c cars must be pissed about the turbo cars.. 14.8 is slow. our old sohc civic with nothing done to it but a mild tune and launch control added ran 14.2 but it did weight a lot less than a cobalt. weight is just as much of a factor. perhaps this guy was racing a bunch of fat kids.
I know you guys are going to try to pull the b.s card but I think that some of the engines are made diff...Still the same model but chevy did something to them...My 07 2.2 can almost keep up with the sc's from a roll...Im about half a car length behind... From get go the sc's zoom past me but from a roll Im not that far behind...was a prev owned car but as far as I know...no modsy, so this thread really caught my eye...and I know I hear a sc engine boost when I hit the gears right...I dont see one under the hood but when I hit my accel right ti does the super chrgr air release thing... any ideas?
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I know you guys are going to try to pull the b.s card but I think that some of the engines are made diff...Still the same model but chevy did something to them...My 07 2.2 can almost keep up with the sc's from a roll...Im about half a car length behind... From get go the sc's zoom past me but from a roll Im not that far behind...was a prev owned car but as far as I know...no modsy, so this thread really caught my eye...and I know I hear a sc engine boost when I hit the gears right...I dont see one under the hood but when I hit my accel right ti does the super chrgr air release thing... any ideas?
I just picked up a Chevy Aveo yesterday... its pretty special I kept up with a Zr1 through 3rd gear. I think mine is extra special, I walk away from Ford GT's stock. It has 2 racing stripes on it and a supercharged badge. Must be a factory freak Aveo or something. Its so sweet. Better have your earplugs in when I turn it on. Its got a huge fart cannon.
I just picked up a Chevy Aveo yesterday... its pretty special I kept up with a Zr1 through 3rd gear. I think mine is extra special, I walk away from Ford GT's stock. It has 2 racing stripes on it and a supercharged badge. Must be a factory freak Aveo or something. Its so sweet. Better have your earplugs in when I turn it on. Its got a huge fart cannon.
I know you guys are going to try to pull the b.s card but I think that some of the engines are made diff...Still the same model but chevy did something to them...My 07 2.2 can almost keep up with the sc's from a roll...Im about half a car length behind... From get go the sc's zoom past me but from a roll Im not that far behind...was a prev owned car but as far as I know...no modsy, so this thread really caught my eye...and I know I hear a sc engine boost when I hit the gears right...I dont see one under the hood but when I hit my accel right ti does the super chrgr air release thing... any ideas?
haha you remember that picture?
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i just got rid of my 06 as well. i had a few boltons and would pull on my buddy's stage 2. granted, everyone around admits i'm one of the best drivers, but still. my 06 ss/sc would pull on stuff it probably shouldn't have *shrug* enjoy it!
so your 2.8, 60s, full exhaust, and "other" mods would pull on your friends stage2????? sounds about right to me.....
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Well I guess I made the mistake of beleiving that if Chevy sells a car with supercharger badges all over it, it must be supercharged. Maybe I should have asked the dealer to let me turn screwdrivers on a car that I havent even bought. Im sure they would have been ok about letting me pull off that ridiculously oversized stock air box. Pretty easy to tell without removing anything when your inside the car and the boost gauge is absent. It was my mistake to not properly check to see if it was there, but why the hell should I have to if it was supposed to be there in the first place and is advertised as such.
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
There is no need to "turn screws" to tell if a car is supercharged or not. If you had ANY kind of experience, you would be able to tell instantly when looking in the engine bay if a car was naturally aspirated or had forced induction. Removal of the airbox is not necessary
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Well I guess I made the mistake of beleiving that if Chevy sells a car with supercharger badges all over it, it must be supercharged. Maybe I should have asked the dealer to let me turn screwdrivers on a car that I havent even bought. Im sure they would have been ok about letting me pull off that ridiculously oversized stock air box. Pretty easy to tell without removing anything when your inside the car and the boost gauge is absent. It was my mistake to not properly check to see if it was there, but why the hell should I have to if it was supposed to be there in the first place and is advertised as such.
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
As far as the brakes go, you dont necessarily have to see "Brembo" for it to be Brembo. It might even actually be Brembo designed. What I do know is they have identifiying numbers on them, come in fire engine red that is sort of flat with no gloss. They are boosted independently by an electric motor that is GM factory with part numbers. Lastly, I have only seen one Cobalt with this brake setup on the site. The stopping power they provide is nothing short of amazing. After all that, I swear I can still hear a subtle high pitched sound of a Supercharger. The good folks at GM said it could very well be a prototype Supercharger that utililizes a combination of electric power and the natural aspiration of the car. I know this may sound absolutely ludicrous to some. I asked for the GM rep to substantiate that claim or provide me with access to literature, and he replyed by saying, "we can't give away all the secrets." I researched the history of the SS moniker online and it seems like every SS model since the 60's had a handful of vehicles that were "special order" or built for "dealers only." Even some the paint schemes are used on Cobalts were actually borrowed from classic or antigue SS's. I even saw a "one of a kind." late 60's Camaro that had the exact same paint job and racing stripes as my 06 SS. As far as substantiating a lie. For what? And to prove what to whom? My posts may be criticized by some for being to long. Make no mistake though, they are informative, mostly accurate, intelligently detailed, and prove that I do my homework.
BTW the way though, your Saleen is absolutely incredible! So why didn't you check to see if there was twin turbos? You can't even tell if the car has twin turbos on it?
I suspect, as someone else has pointed out, that you are in denial regarding your purchase of an ss/na, mistaking it for an ss/sc. This denial has led you to 'rationalize' the purchase vis-ŕ-vis your stories of 'secret superchargers' etc., simply to protect your ego. Contrary to what you have stated, the community of ss.net has tried to help you by calling 'bullshit' on your 'rationalization' in order for you to move past your denial. In that sense, they really are helping you. But since this has not seemed to be enough, led me provide you with two pieces of advice:
1. Dyno your car... 'subjective' interpretations of how fast a car really is can be misleading.... 'objective' numbers will not lie. And in case you are telling the truth, you can prove it to all of us simply by posting the dyno sheet. And if you really are lying to yourself...well you will find that out too....
2. If you are upset regarding your ss/na purchase when you thought it was an ss/sc... go see a lawyer. If the sales person did 'misrepresent' the car as having a supercharger than you will have a legal cause of action to get your money back since there was a misrepresentation of a material term of the contract viz, that it was a supercharged car when it really was not.
Hope this helps
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I know you guys are going to try to pull the b.s card but I think that some of the engines are made diff...Still the same model but chevy did something to them...My 07 2.2 can almost keep up with the sc's from a roll...Im about half a car length behind... From get go the sc's zoom past me but from a roll Im not that far behind...was a prev owned car but as far as I know...no modsy, so this thread really caught my eye...and I know I hear a sc engine boost when I hit the gears right...I dont see one under the hood but when I hit my accel right ti does the super chrgr air release thing... any ideas?
