The worst small car!!
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From: Grayslake, IL
Originally Posted by leviticus88
A new Si Fully load with the 18 in hfp wheels and ground effects runs around $25k ish and it's a lot slower with no leather. Mind you a fully loaded SS/SC is around there but the balt is much faster and in my opinion a great looking vehicle. I had the option of buying the SI or my balt. I looked at them both and drove them both. The SI is nice looking and feeling car but my balt will actually put you in your seat! Needles to say I choose the balt. 
I'll stick with my Cobalt.
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From: Janesville, WI
Originally Posted by guppy1203
Ya, I just wanted to jump in here and add. I baught one of the first few SS's to hit California back in July of '05 and I have had no problems with it what-so-ever. I hit a curb about 3 months after I got it, and had to change the tires that I ate up becuause of it, but that was my fault, had nothing to do with the reliability of the car. As far as GM and Chevy in general goes, that is all my family has ever owned. Just to list '92, '96, and '00 Surburbans an '02 Silverado 1500, an '03 Silverado 1500, and an '04 Silverado 2500HD, and now my '05 Cobalt SS, and have had NO major problems at all with any of them. They have all been very "reliable" cars. I have never been a Ford fan at all, and have NEVER baught import cars. I really dont care what any magazine, journal, newspaper, add, or report has to say. I go by what I have expierenced, and I have had nothing but good things to say. And until I see something wrong with the cars and trucks that I buy, I will keep buying Chevy products.
God bless you
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From: Cali
Originally Posted by wesmanw02
Whats so funny?? I called you an idiot because your blindly defending something you don't have a clue about. Both vehicles are assembed to the same standards, they use the same components, and they share the same designs. Yet one is more reliable than the other?? Bullshit.
And including the trim pieces in the "reliability" is just plain stupid. If a piece from the sunroof trim comes lose, for example, it doesn't affect the reliability of the car. It doesn't leave you stranded, it doesn't cause the car to become undrivable, it doesn't make it "unreliable" in any way. Case closed, just drop it.
And including the trim pieces in the "reliability" is just plain stupid. If a piece from the sunroof trim comes lose, for example, it doesn't affect the reliability of the car. It doesn't leave you stranded, it doesn't cause the car to become undrivable, it doesn't make it "unreliable" in any way. Case closed, just drop it.
Originally Posted by detrini
When your car is in the dealer over and over for the trim falling apart and coming apart that and you have to drive **** rentals it affects reliability. Its rediculous. I will defend my car to a point but when GM is handing out poorly designed and put togeather pieces of **** I'm not going to be putting it on a pedistol or defending it when magazines I dont like put it down.
Come on man, I proved you wrong and made you feel/look stupid, get over it, don't try to go around that FACT. Nobody ever agrees with you, especially when you are obviously wrong, like in this instance, yet you keep arguing, how is that wise?
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From: Pennsylvania
Originally Posted by wesmanw02
And since when does trim pieces coming loose affect reliability?? Seriously dude, get a clue
I dunno about you but if my cars cloth starts coming off my seat, my sunroof seals start falling off, windows malfunction, etc, etc etc...then that car definately qualifies as a piece of ****. Whether it was quality or reliability at fault interior and trim pieces play just as much a role as the rest of the car.
That's not to say all GM cars are unreliable though. My mom and dad's Buick Century and Regal haven't given us one little problem, but my Grand Prix ...that's another story and is precisly why I'm here checking out the Cobalt as a possible new purchase. I wish I'd never bought that vehicle...and it only has 52,000 thousand miles on it and has leaked, warped discs, strut problems, but it does reliably start up every morning and move...if that's all you need your car to do then more power to you.
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From: WI
CR - In my experience, this car is a piece of crap. It's probably the worst car I've ever owned in fact. My Toyota Mr2 had less problems throughout it's life (170,000 miles).
I also have a 78 corvette that has less problems than the Cobalt has. I got a big freaken lemon.
I've had the car in the dealer more times than I've had oil changes to make a long story short.
I also have a 78 corvette that has less problems than the Cobalt has. I got a big freaken lemon.
I've had the car in the dealer more times than I've had oil changes to make a long story short.
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From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by 280Z1977
Have you been to both plants? So they are exactly the same? Come on man, I proved you wrong and made you feel/look stupid, get over it, don't try to go around that FACT. Nobody ever agrees with you, especially when you are obviously wrong, like in this instance, yet you keep arguing, how is that wise?
Come on man, I proved you wrong and made you feel/look stupid, get over it, don't try to go around that FACT. Nobody ever agrees with you, especially when you are obviously wrong, like in this instance, yet you keep arguing, how is that wise?The vehicles are assembled to Toyota quality standards, meaning both plants have to meet the same requirements. Point being that CR's reliability rating system is flawed, and you're blindly defending it like a tool
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From: Cali
Originally Posted by wesmanw02
Have YOU been to both plants?? Can YOU prove that they are significantly different?? No, you can't, so STFU.
The vehicles are assembled to Toyota quality standards, meaning both plants have to meet the same requirements. Point being that CR's reliability rating system is flawed, and you're blindly defending it like a tool
The vehicles are assembled to Toyota quality standards, meaning both plants have to meet the same requirements. Point being that CR's reliability rating system is flawed, and you're blindly defending it like a tool
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