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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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torque gets you going HP wins the race though.
Im calling BS. My eclipse has **** stomped riced out 2.2 cobalts but yet been given a helluva run by a new civic SI. We were pretty much even all the way to 95mph. Still honestly not sure who won that race. He had far less torque than I did and an extra gear yet ran right along side me. Sorry but a high 16 second car isnt going to get walked by a high 14 car its going to get aircraft carrier lengths put on it!
First of all who said high 16s? try low 15s... Call BS all you want I have plenty of people down here that will vouch for me I don't need some ******* on the internet to believe what I know I can do.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
First of all who said high 16s? try low 15s... Call BS all you want I have plenty of people down here that will vouch for me I don't need some ******* on the internet to believe what I know I can do.
low 15's? With bolt ons and a tune on an auto? slips and/or videos? that's a crock. Maybe very high 15's.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
First of all who said high 16s? try low 15s... Call BS all you want I have plenty of people down here that will vouch for me I don't need some ******* on the internet to believe what I know I can do.
whatever your smoking pass it this way!


On the other hand I do see low 15s possible in an auto 2.2...

With a 50 shot and down a good hill.
Theres no way with just basic bolt ons you shave almost a second and a half off the stock time. Hell Id be happy to do that in my 2.4! Id love it to run a 15 flat or like a 15.2 with full boltons.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
whatever your smoking pass it this way!


On the other hand I do see low 15s possible in an auto 2.2...

With a 50 shot and down a good hill.
Theres no way with just basic bolt ons you shave almost a second and a half off the stock time. Hell Id be happy to do that in my 2.4! Id love it to run a 15 flat or like a 15.2 with full boltons.
full boltons and an auto 2.2 will still run 16's. I haven't been keeping up since I sold my 2.2 so i don't know what they do with tunes, but no chance it takes off a second.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2008G5GT
Thanks, I was a bit impressed myself.

Have you seen any noticeable gains with those mods?

I'm already looking into an SLP Catback, and K&N Intake. Probably won't touch my header/DP anytime soon.
Definetly seen gains with it. It'll give your car new life trust me.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by olivecj
Definetly seen gains with it. It'll give your car new life trust me.
what kind of gains?
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
what kind of gains?
I got a 2.4 g5 gt buddy . My header/downpipe plus my intake has made my car faster. I'm probably atleast 165 at the wheels now.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
First of all who said high 16s? try low 15s... Call BS all you want I have plenty of people down here that will vouch for me I don't need some ******* on the internet to believe what I know I can do.
a fully bolted auto 2.2 will keep up with a SI through first gear...but once you have to shift, he'll pull HARD. I know from experience as well. At best, you might keep up with one with a very agressive tune for 94 octane...but the civic has a MAJOR edge on you. 145hp vs 197. You win in the torque department, but their gearing almost makes up for that fact.

Methinks you raced an SI badged civic that was really a base model...
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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I've planned to run a turbo next year. We'll see if I make the cash flow for it.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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I've planned to run a turbo next year. We'll see if I make the cash flow for it.
Just make sure you will be happy with ~210-220whp before you spend that much money. My LSJ has a decent amount more than that and it feels really slow to me.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Just make sure you will be happy with ~210-220whp before you spend that much money. My LSJ has a decent amount more than that and it feels really slow to me.
Until I can build a motor for it, that will be fine for the times.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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V6 in a Cobalt:

I was in dealership and flipped through an accessory type of GM parts book. Had the Cobalt listed among the engine modifications section in it. Apparently, you can put a small block V6 in a Chevrolet Cobalt. The book had a picture of a small block V6 engine block and then just a few more words about parts and part numbers for it. No price listed. Seems I guess you can have it dealer installed maybe?

I was going to take the book, but was a big book to take, not the throw away pamphlet kind.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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Haha all these fucktards in here... Who have never seen a 2.2 auto.
I'm not the fastest 2.2 in 1/4 mile for no reason
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Old May 17, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
Haha all these fucktards in here... Who have never seen a 2.2 auto.
I'm not the fastest 2.2 in 1/4 mile for no reason
Ok explain how you got that 13.3?
Its either forced induction or nitrous. Plain and simple.

A full bolt on 2.2 auto will not run anything better than a 15 flat or maybe high 14's with cams. I mean FULL BOLT on unless its forced induction or nitrous. Or being pushed off the side of a very high cliff!
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Haha I like the cliff...
That's with the turbo though plain and simple.
I ran low 15s without it though. I just like how people on here say that I didn't beat Civic Si's before hand. That's just dumb.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
Haha I like the cliff...
That's with the turbo though plain and simple.
I ran low 15s without it though. I just like how people on here say that I didn't beat Civic Si's before hand. That's just dumb.
I saw you on here talking about running a 15.8.... yeah yeah it was 106 degrees.... Now a good driver in a new SI can click off a 14.9... The best mph you could get would MAYBE be a 90mph trap. In which case the SI is still trapping higher and running a lower e.t. Point in case you would get pulled in 3rd gear good. With a header a crap plug in tune and intake I cant beat an SI and Ive taken out 15.5 cars by 2-3 car lengths. So im still calling bs.

Now you might be able to beat a B16a2 99-00 SI.
Or even the egg shaped K20 SI (160hp)

But not the newest SI's.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Again.. say what you will and have fun with it
I honestly don't care what you think.
I know everyone down here knows that I have before
the pile of cards is yours if you call bs though.
Have a good one
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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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I say go for it man! First off a 2.2l has more mod options (forged internals, valves/springs, wheels 4x100 same as most tuners) just due to the Cavaliers, Sunfires, etc. that use the same engine (also stronger block over 2.4l since less bore). Don't believe me go to the ecotec forums and see how small the Cobalt community is in there. Plus for $1500 you can be boosted and have cheaper insurance than the SS guys. With that $1500 you also get bigger 60# injectors, bigger/better intercooler, etc. that even the stock SS/sc couldn't touch.

Plus people on here are getting over 250-260whp out of an auto! That is more than the WHP on the stock SS/tc and beyond a stage 2 whp on SS/sc.

What is the deal with this forum and Auto's and everyone hating on the 2.2l? There are plenty of cool cars with autos (even most real drag cars having autos).... example early muscle cars (turbo-hydromatic, powerglides, borgwarner, etc), plus many newer models having cool auto paddle shift transmissions. It isn't like you can't upgrade the Auto either.. hardened parts, shift kits, torque
converters, trans brakes, trans line pressure, shift points, cooler, gear ratios, etc. The auto in the 2.2l is no slouch either since it is also used in 6 cyl cars.

I think the 2.2l ls/lt are more fun to mod and your car would be more of a sleeper.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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I say go for it man! First off a 2.2l has more mod options (forged internals, valves/springs, wheels 4x100 same as most tuners) just due to the Cavaliers, Sunfires, etc. that use the same engine (also stronger block over 2.4l since less bore). Don't believe me go to the ecotec forums and see how small the Cobalt community is in there. Plus for $1500 you can be boosted and have cheaper insurance than the SS guys. With that $1500 you also get bigger 60# injectors, bigger/better intercooler, etc. that even the stock SS/sc couldn't touch.

Plus people on here are getting over 250-260whp out of an auto! That is more than the WHP on the stock SS/tc and beyond a stage 2 whp on SS/sc.

What is the deal with this forum and Auto's and everyone hating on the 2.2l? There are plenty of cool cars with autos (even most real drag cars having autos).... example early muscle cars (turbo-hydromatic, powerglides, borgwarner, etc), plus many newer models having cool auto paddle shift transmissions. It isn't like you can't upgrade the Auto either.. hardened parts, shift kits, torque
converters, trans brakes, trans line pressure, shift points, cooler, gear ratios, etc. The auto in the 2.2l is no slouch either since it is also used in 6 cyl cars.

I think the 2.2l ls/lt are more fun to mod and your car would be more of a sleeper.
dude dont even bring up that point, it won't win any battles. no one here besides us 2.2 guys appreciate our cars. yeah we have the weakest cobalt engine and an automatic transmission, but let us mod our own damn cars and if you dont have anything constructive to say then get the hell out.

2.2 FTW!
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Seriously... And besides it's so much fun to tell the guy in the Mustang GT that he just got beat by a 2.2L Auto Cobalt
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Seriously... And besides it's so much fun to tell the guy in the Mustang GT that he just got beat by a 2.2L Auto Cobalt


btw what turbo kit you got?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Garret kit with the gt2860rs still only pushing 7lbs. I'll bump it up to 10 here soon then I'm going to do internals and boost the **** out of it
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Old May 18, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
Garret kit with the gt2860rs still only pushing 7lbs. I'll bump it up to 10 here soon then I'm going to do internals and boost the **** out of it
how much whp/wtq you THINK you have? since dynoing our autos isnt easy. lol
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Old May 18, 2010 | 02:56 AM
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Probably 240WHP and 250WTQ. I'm guessing... I beat a SRT 4 a few weeks ago by a couple car lengths from a 40 roll. He dyno'd at 230WHP and 280WTQ so that's kinda what I'm going off of.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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I wouldnt bother, my family has an 07 2.2 auto 4dr and after driving it for a while I know if I owned it I wouldnt really do anything to it, short of mabey a filter and exhaust...

My bro raced me in it against my 2.4 Stick and I pwned the snot out of it
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