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Old 06-15-2007, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoBoost
We will be replacing the entire intake/supercharger/intercooler assembly in our system with one of our StreetRace sheetmetal manifolds.
Keeping the stock intercooler might advantageous because it would obviously save plumbing, weight, simplfy things and save money. Although for ultimate cooling FMIC would be best.
Old 06-15-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
Bill,

I to have thought about the extra air flow thats possible on that side of the block, the intake is a "hodgepodge" of parts crammed together.....

my question is simple....

with your turbo kit will you be useing an empty blower case as a intake hat or will you be makeing a custom pice?

my guess is custom but then we run into the issue of electrical system charging, with the LSJ alt only able to spin one direction(the pulley is clutched) how will you solve this issue?
As noted above, we are chucking the whole 'hodgepodge' in favor of a dedicated manifold.

We will have an effective alternator solution that retains the stock alternator.

Originally Posted by tum_tum
i wanna do a turbo swap but i live in cali..so i dont know bout smog ...i still think a return line would be the best bet..like the srt 4's
If fuel isn't the issue, and we don't believe it is, then no fuel system combo can cure it. As a point of comparison, we offer returnless fuel systems for SRT-4's that comfortably make up to 500HP and drive like stockers

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Keeping the stock intercooler might advantageous because it would obviously save plumbing, weight, simplfy things and save money. Although for ultimate cooling FMIC would be best.
I think you said it all!

FWIW, we've tried very hard to love the stock intercooler system, but like the blower, it was designed for the heat loading of the stock power level, and not much more. And retaining it means retaining the heinous airflow shortcomings of the stock manifold, which is a virtual labyrinth of twists and sharp turns...

As with our other offerings, an oversized FMIC will be standard

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Old 06-15-2007, 05:41 PM
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Interesting theories....
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:44 AM
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very interesting.... makes me wanna hold back on any other mods and wait to see where this goes
Old 06-17-2007, 09:53 PM
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i know there has to be more questions
Old 06-17-2007, 09:54 PM
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once hahn has some info to give to us there will be tons of questions.
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read the thread, they posted on the subject.
Old 06-17-2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoBoost
These items are yet to be determined. We will strive to keep it affordable, and as powerful as can safely be achieved.

This system will be end-user tunable. To what extent is yet to be determined, but as we've already demonstrated with our product for Solstice/Sky and now 2.4 Cobalt, we aren't locking you in to canned tunes that aren't capable of compensating for every possible modification and/or climate.
I have read the thread, thanx, this is kinda what i am talking. Once hahn has more info to give to us, ppl will have more questions. Post a vid of the system in action and the thread will turn into a 20 pager over night.
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I'm still waiting to get your Super 20G turbo kit.
Old 06-17-2007, 10:47 PM
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I'd actually just like the parts to complete the project. I understand there is a question of liability, but I'd just like the parts to be available.
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Subscribing to this thread cause I know its going to get good here really soon!
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Old 06-17-2007, 11:13 PM
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hmmmmmmmmm........... any ideas on what turbo will be used??? or is that a hush hush no no question?? Reguardless way i cant wait for this.
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eh we are going to have to wait till they are done with the prototype. But regardless if its from hahn its going to be good, powerful, ad most importantly reliable.
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Yes reliable and powerful are the best two things when getting a big build done. I have total confidence that Hahn will be able to do both of those things. Look at their other project cars in the past not to mention their unbelieveable pontiac sunfire! I have a buddy with a turbo Cavalier from Hahn and yet to have a problem! And its fast as hell! total sleeper! I can not wait for the release for this kit! Bill Hahn is a great guy and Im not angry that he took this long to get this kit done. He is doing it right the first time and this way you have no problems!!!! WOOT! RANT DONE!
Old 06-17-2007, 11:26 PM
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Agreed, Rep Added, HahnRaceCraft is the ****!!!
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Are the sheet metal manifolds ready for sale? And will they be using the oe throttle body?
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This is DAMN good to hear. Thank you and good job Hahn for the updates as well as the dedication to our vehicles.

Now on to my question. I have heard recently that goind Turbo, they suggested doing a piston swap before or during the Turbo conversion. He had said that they won't hold up to the newly found power. What's your take on this?? I am planning to do a Turbo swap this winter and want to do it right the first time. She's still gonna be somewhat of a daily driver so reliability is paramount. Thanks again
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
Now on to my question. I have heard recently that goind Turbo, they suggested doing a piston swap before or during the Turbo conversion. He had said that they won't hold up to the newly found power. What's your take on this?? I am planning to do a Turbo swap this winter and want to do it right the first time. She's still gonna be somewhat of a daily driver so reliability is paramount. Thanks again
My question is basically the same. I can't wait for this to be released!
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Interesting info about the manifold .
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Originally Posted by 06lasersss/c
hmmmmmmmmm........... any ideas on what turbo will be used??? or is that a hush hush no no question?? Reguardless way i cant wait for this.
We are doing two system iterations. One is aimed at stock LSJ engines, and will use our very popular and proven Super 20G turbo, which can support up to 475 HP. This is a real sweetheart in the 300-450 HP range. Outstanding durability, as efficient as anything available, and a super match for the 2.0...we've sold hundreds of them to 2.0 liter customers (Mitsu and Chrysler) to date!

For those who are getting busy with built engines, the Garrett GT35R will be the ticket. This will not be for everyone, but for those who insist on more than 500 HP, this will be the way to go.

Should you start with a Super 20G, and wish to move the the GT35R later, interchangeability is part of the design.

Originally Posted by chevytech007
Are the sheet metal manifolds ready for sale? And will they be using the oe throttle body?
These will debut with the turbosystems, and will use the oe throttle body.

Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
This is DAMN good to hear. Thank you and good job Hahn for the updates as well as the dedication to our vehicles.

Now on to my question. I have heard recently that goind Turbo, they suggested doing a piston swap before or during the Turbo conversion. He had said that they won't hold up to the newly found power. What's your take on this?? I am planning to do a Turbo swap this winter and want to do it right the first time. She's still gonna be somewhat of a daily driver so reliability is paramount. Thanks again
While there's no doubt that you can increase potential durability with a piston swap, I'd not consider it a neccessity. We've pushed this piston design very hard in testing, and not seen a problem. As with any factory cast piston, it's not as forgiving to tuning or octane mishaps as a forged aftermarket piece. But it's a boost-intended design, and if the car is tuned and operated correctly, it should hold up just fine.

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:21 AM
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^^^^ noice, i've heard good things about the super 20g
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suscribed.
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I would love a full turbo conversion. way better than twincharging. super 20g all the way.
I gotta start saving $$$.


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