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Old 03-29-2008, 06:01 PM
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wow. this explains alot. I'm going to go check this cuz my shifter is sloppy as hell. Hate to be stranded somewhere because of something this simple.

problem... how do you get at the bottom fuse box bolt?
and i thin there are 2 roll pins, one on each linkage. do both of these go bad or is it just the top (front) one?

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Old 03-29-2008, 06:18 PM
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Im lost...how do you know if your pins are out and how many do you we have?
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nice, wish this was around when i went through 3 of those
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wow. this explains alot. I'm going to go check this cuz my shifter is sloppy as hell. Hate to be stranded somewhere because of something this simple.

problem... how do you get at the bottom fuse box bolt?
and i thin there are 2 roll pins, one on each linkage. do both of these go bad or is it just the top (front) one?
the bolts for the fuse box, go under your car and look up compare it to the picture so you can get and idea where to look, there are kinda on the opisite side of the wheel well.
just replace the one the 2nd one for your shifter to go side to side should probally never wear out. just the one cable that goes front and back, thats the one that takes abuse when you are banging throw gears.

the size is 3/16 and i think someone said it was 1.1" long, but it wouldnt hurt to even go 1.25" the 1" one i put in almost look to short but i took it out after 4days and it was already pretty damaged and it wouldnt be long before it broke.
if you use a bolt like i did...go with one 1.5" long and i couldnt find anything strong in a 3/16" bolt so i went 10-24, it fits perfect fairly tight but not tooo tight.

I bought a few extra bolts and put one on the press and it took about 2500-3000psi to snap it, but it didnt bend or anything, just a clean snap, unlike a weaker bolt which would probally just bend. haha, yeah i get bored at work some days...
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:16 AM
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Rally quick question, how in the **** could you get to the roll pin?!?!

I had my box out, roll pin easily reachable, but I couldn't get anything down there to hit it out/push the new one in. The angle is way to hard.
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Rally quick question, how in the **** could you get to the roll pin?!?!

I had my box out, roll pin easily reachable, but I couldn't get anything down there to hit it out/push the new one in. The angle is way to hard.
really short 3/16 punch , its hard but its doable... both times i didnt even need to use a hammer just pushed the punch in by hand n wiggle the arm on the tranny back and forth and it just pushed through....
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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thanks rick, yea it's hard but doable. wiggling works!
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I JUST had my roll pin replaced, but my shifter still feels sloppy. Nothing like my buddies WRX or any other car I have felt really... Any ideas?
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i have a question is there a pin for every gear because i have had this problem fixed two times now and it was always 2nd gear now it seems third is wierd on it like third just goes in easy and i can move my shifter when its in neutral forward a inch and a half from the original position and 3rd seems to go in really easy right now.
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Originally Posted by effex80 View Post
I JUST had my roll pin replaced, but my shifter still feels sloppy. Nothing like my buddies WRX or any other car I have felt really... Any ideas?
it's probably already broke again. I had mine replaced at the dealership and when I got it back, it still felt sloppy. I found out later that the ******* technician had broken it already when installing it.

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i have a question is there a pin for every gear because i have had this problem fixed two times now and it was always 2nd gear now it seems third is wierd on it like third just goes in easy and i can move my shifter when its in neutral forward a inch and a half from the original position and 3rd seems to go in really easy right now.

No, there is only 2 pins, 1 for the each of the 2 linkages. One linkage controls up and down movement, while the other one controls left to right movement.

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nice write up. if gears are grinding sometimes, EVEN THOUGH UR FOOT IS TO THE FLOOR, would that mean u need a new one. also, my shifter is very loose.
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nice write up. if gears are grinding sometimes, EVEN THOUGH UR FOOT IS TO THE FLOOR, would that mean u need a new one. also, my shifter is very loose.
Grinding has nothing to do with the roll pin. It only has to do with the shifter feeling loose. Or not having any gears at all to put the shifter into.
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wow, my dealership had my car for about a week last year because of this. They also took apart my whole trans to do it....

I heard from a friend it was easy, but I didn't think it would be that easy. I've had so many trans out of Cobalts now, and never once looked closely at it. I'll have to do that next time I install a clutch.

Think I might go out and buy a new pin tomorrow. I've been almost freaking out because my shifter is starting to feel sloppy and I have Winged Warrior in 3 weeks. I could just see it breaking while I'm there, 6 hours from home
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:12 AM
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subscribed for sure. ever since i installed my hurst it seems a bit sloppy left to right... not sure

how can you tell?

also anybody make a how to on replacing a clutch?
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wow, my dealership had my car for about a week last year because of this. They also took apart my whole trans to do it....

I heard from a friend it was easy, but I didn't think it would be that easy. I've had so many trans out of Cobalts now, and never once looked closely at it. I'll have to do that next time I install a clutch.

Think I might go out and buy a new pin tomorrow. I've been almost freaking out because my shifter is starting to feel sloppy and I have Winged Warrior in 3 weeks. I could just see it breaking while I'm there, 6 hours from home
Just buy a few pins and keep them in your car. They are only like 21cents each. You can litterly put them in with your fingers if you jiggle the linkage enough. I keep like 2 extra in my car. I got a friend that works on the aircraft at my base that is trying to hook me up with a aircraft bolt. If he gets me one, I'll see if I can make that a permanent fix.

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subscribed for sure. ever since i installed my hurst it seems a bit sloppy left to right... not sure

how can you tell?

also anybody make a how to on replacing a clutch?
It will feel sloppy all over. Left to right, up and down.

I don't think anyone has made a how to on replacing a clutch. But I'll be making a how to in september/october on swapping to an f23 transmission when i get back from my deployment. I'll make a separate how to on replacing clutches.

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THANK YOU!!! I've been waiting for a writeup with this! Kudos on the parts list and pics as well--I can't stand a howto without a tool list or pics.
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Originally Posted by silentd View Post
subscribed for sure. ever since i installed my hurst it seems a bit sloppy left to right... not sure

how can you tell?

also anybody make a how to on replacing a clutch?
GM has a how to out on clutch replacement. I forget what GM site it's on, but heres a link to it.

http://www.seecarclub.net/files/lsj/...SJ_Chap5&6.pdf

Also there's the other two parts of that document here

http://www.seecarclub.net/index.php?topic=175.0
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holy ****, the dealer charged me 600 plus to fix that
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whats the reason for this to go?
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Hey Ralli could you update those pictures. I was actually planning on printing this out and putting it in with the tools in my trunk so this doesn't strand me again like the first time I broke it.
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yea man, my bad. I was reorganizing my photobucket album today.
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Ha, so I just caught it on the wrong day, thanks for the update. Awesome writeup by the way.
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Very nice write up. I went through quite a few roll pins when i had my car. Although when changing mine i never had to take the wheel off. That's the only unnecessary step you have in there.
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