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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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This new "quad pass intercooler" is the one that will be used on my engine. I am looking forward to it.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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I'm going to just email Laminova/Opcon and get an answer and post it here showing that .

Also, our pumps are already centrifugal and I don't see any other pump rated higher than our 7gpm (26L/m). Also...I'm not getting this whole laminova core thing. The pump is required and that is why GM gave us pumps.

As far as the lining...do you add an extra lining or something for increased cooling? Sounds like what Lamniova says on their site already...

Originally Posted by Laminova
The laminar flow means low pressure drop
The laminar flow principle means low pressure drop and excellent heat transfer along the entire length. The inside of the core has generous coolant passages that are very tolerant to debris and gives negligible pressure drop. The core can be fitted both on the full coolant flow or in a partial flow circuit.

http://www.opcon.se/index.asp?sPage=1&langID=2&cID=15
And here is the bosch pump...
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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interesting info...
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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I have officially gone cross-eyed...
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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me too.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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got a link to some more info or pics yet? is it on your sitE?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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^^^^^ ^^^^^
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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so when is this actually available and have dyno gains been proven?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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hmmmm sarcasm much.... hahahaha
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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so does this intake manifold have 4 EXTRA laminovas? or does it still only have the normal amount... is that what you mean by quad pass? add 4 more 'special' laminovas? I think im lost...
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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With the temp drops, how much timing will we probably be able to add with 94 octane?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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It should be "Dual Pass Intake Manifold." 4 pass=# of times the flow of coolant passes through the cores, in which you already have one...from the factory. It's Dual pass because the 4 cores are split up into two seperate flows and then from there each flow goes through 2 (dual) cores.

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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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As a paying vendor, we won't entertain argumentative debates about our products with people who post nonsensical misinformation. We simply have no time for idiocy. I'm sure the mods will attend to this swiftly. (next post will address properly proposed questions)
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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i got the control arm bushings and the intense tranny mounts and i have no wheel hop.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JBP
As a paying vendor, we won't entertain argumentative debates about our products with people who post nonsensical misinformation. We simply have no time for idiocy. I'm sure the mods will attend to this swiftly. (next post will address properly proposed questions)
at least you guys acted like pro's....not like a little kid like most the people on here seem to be doing.

i how ever would like to see a digram and such about this becase i am semi-lost but this with my 2 H/E's would do wonders for AIT2'S!
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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ok man...
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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JBP would like to address all the pertaining questions/concerns with the 4-pass/ It would seem the most confusing issue for prospective customers who are trying to cut through the nonsense are the symantics of a 4-pass intercooler.

- Stock is a Single Inlet, Serial Path, 4-Pass Intercooler
- Ours is a Dual Inlet, Parallel Path, 4-Pass Intercooler

The second issue is real world testing:

- Current results are purely methodological in nature and present using thermal calculations.

We hope to have testing installed and completed ASAP.


Any other real issues, questions, please feel free to bring up.

edit: I have about 10 more minutes before I have to log off.. Please address issues immediately, or call us up if you don't understand anything with our Intercooler.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JBP
(next post will address properly proposed questions)
Perhaps I was a bit harsh with the race fuel comment. Here's a properly addressed question:

Dear Sir or Mam,
I have a questions about a proposed componet for my vehicle. I am wondering the differences between your 4-pass intercooler and upgraded intercooler cores. From my understanding, the stock system is a 4 pass setup and the intercooler already used specially designed Laminova cores on top of a 7GPM intercooler pump. What exactly is the difference between your setup and the stock setup.

Thanks for your time, I am sure that you are busy designing quality products for our cars. This is much appreciated.



----Ah ha! I see you did. Thanks.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JBP
JBP would like to address all the pertaining questions/concerns with the 4-pass/ It would seem the most confusing issue for prospective customers who are trying to cut through the nonsense are the symantics of a 4-pass intercooler.

- Stock is a Single Inlet, Serial Path, 4-Pass Intercooler
- Ours is a Dual Inlet, Parallel Path, 4-Pass Intercooler

The second issue is real world testing:

- Current results are purely methodological in nature and present using thermal calculations.

We hope to have testing installed and completed ASAP.


Any other real issues, questions, please feel free to bring up.

edit: I have about 10 more minutes before I have to log off.. Please address issues immediately, or call us up if you don't understand anything with our Intercooler.

PM sent!
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Will the inlet/outlet adaptor piece be available separately?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JBP
- Stock is a Single Inlet, Serial Path, 4-Pass Intercooler
- Ours is a Dual Inlet, Parallel Path, 4-Pass Intercooler
How can you send coolant that way? I can't visualize how it will flow 4 times through 4 cores with a dual inlet. Duel inlet means flowing into two cores at once, right? I'm still lost.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jbp
- Stock is a Single Inlet, Serial Path, 4-Pass Intercooler
- Ours is a Dual Inlet, Parallel Path, 4-Pass Intercooler
duh huh? in laymen's terms?
iirc, dual inlet w/ a single larger outlet = dual pass...
inlet 1= in laminova 1 to laminova 2 =>to outlet
inlet 2= in laminova 3 to laminova 4 => to outlet.
so...dual pass?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Do you have any information comparing the new intercooler pump to the factory supplied Bosch 7gpm (26L per minute) flow rating?

Also, the difference between the already factory supplied 4 laminova cores vs the new ones?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Here's how I see it...the single inlet snakes the fluid through 4 cores in series, hence the fluid spends a lot of time in the intercooler. The more time it spends in there, the hotter it gets and the less effective it is at cooling the air.

The dual inlet runs fluid through all 4 cores at the same time, but straight through, (like a 4 lane highway as opposed to a 1 lane twisty road) so the fluid is circulated faster through the intercooler, meaning it doesn't heat up as much, and because of that is more efficient at cooling the air.

I'm no expert on this, but it sounds like that's what he's trying to say. Someone e-whack me if I'm way off on this.

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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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1st- can someone please bann rlinbatonrouge, he's obviously a trol
2nd- stop disrespecting JBP, they've got some of the best preformance parts for the cobalt... AND NONE OF THEM ARE POINTLESS
3rd- we're not gonna call the intercooler by a different name, just because you don't know what you're talking about

4th- JBP, I suggest you start answering some of these questions ASAP

1. when are you getting the AIT2's on this?
2. Can you go in-depth on what exatly your 4pass does (diagram)?
3. What is the difference between your 4-pass and GMPP's 2-pass?
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