sign me up

 

I'll take the free cam deal. Drop my car off and have at it. PM me.

 

Whoa Whoa Whoa... what free cam deal???

 

there

 

to be the test car lol

subd. damn thats a nice price. i just need to know gains now

 

Here's the problem people are having right now with you offering solid lifters in this package:

Our stock lifters are more than good enough for use under heavy abuse, racing, high rpm etc. Stock lifters are used in the GM Racing drag and drift cars until they get to cam profiles that have too high of lift and they swap out for solid.

You come up and say "Hey guys, we have LSJ cams that are not regrinds and can just be installed with no lifter issue at all." We say, "Holy crap, that's freaking awesome! Finally!"

Then you come out with a package that includes solid lifters and it throws one hell of a red flag. You guys don't even come close to having a good reputation so if you want people to believe you, the burden of proof that your product works, and won't break anyone's motor, is on you. That's also why no one wants to get a "free" set of your cams.

 

Are you all going to build cams for everybody or just one size fits all.you all need to do it in 3 stages we need to buy spring any way might aswell get the lift we need.


stage 1 268 adv dur and 500 lift


stage 2 272adv dur and 550 lift for us with ported heads


stage 3 280 adv dur and 570 lift for street strip cars

 

I'll take the Free Set of Cams. When do you need my car?

Oh, BTW... You break it, you buy it.

 

I second that! I need a set of cams that will match my ported head, tvs engine.

 

I'd take the 272's in a heartbeat.

 

Id take stg 2 or 3 ill pay right now if they make them.

 

x2 with the TVS + ported head

 

which stage or sizing would i get with stock head and engine. i have not touched my engine just bolt ons.

 

Stg1

 

thanks, and would i need lifters or valves?

and on our cars with cams does it have the destinctive sound of cams like on other cars? which sounds like sex

 

I shouldn't need Valves (stockers are good past 400whp) or Solid Lifter (unless you are getting regrinds), but I would do valve springs for sure.

And the "Sound" you are talking about, that choppy rumble... it all depends on the LSA of the cam, and IIRC a few other little factors.



Here's a Cam Guide for LS1's... it talks about what each Spec of the cam does.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/genera...cam-guide.html

 

There's s a crap load of responses and I'll attack them all systematically:

YES, you put them in and no customization. The intake cam will have no provision for the hex drive, while the exhaust cam will.

There's so much to building a profile, its not funny. First, the masters to be made are expensive. We're not Comp or Crane cams and have only a set budget in order to make grinds. So a set of three "staged" grinds, would cost close to $1250 and then the production run to cut costs would cost close to over $10,000 for three stages of camshafts. It's not cheap. Which is why there has to be a trade off. If you want a custom grind, with 500+ lift, then we'll do that as a one off. We're trying to provide a grind that will be acceptable to the majority of the community who run on vastly stock parts. I'm sure there's not more than 50ppl on this forum with a ported head, so you have to evaluate everything from a standpoint as a business and take the influx of the oddball grinds as a separate entity. Simply put, we can't afford to do so.

This is possible. We make our own rocker arms, and have dabbled in the idea of a different ratio, 1.8:1 or even larger. Remember, the more lift you put into the valvetrain, you get into a valve to piston clearance issues, which means, fly-cutting the piston to accommodate. Something people don't want to do. So I rather ensure that more lift be added through a rocker arm ratio, thereby making the choice for more lift a choice for easier for those who want to avoid the custom grind route.

What do you mean when you say, "what do you need?"... As in tools, additional parts or supporting mods, tuning??... please elaborate.

Charge is based on the number of hours. We put the hours for cam install at 4.0hrs. So at that point you can estimate the cost by a shop's hourly shop rate.

Any hydraulic valvetrain will experience bleed off at high sustained rpms, there's a consistency experienced with a solid valvetrain and its not as high-maintenance as people may think. Regardless, a solid lifter is being offered with this package, Even though it is not necessary.

Again, this is a speculative statement on your part. The fact that we didn't even install the camshafts on a engine yet invalidates the fact that we have cams that can be installed with no lifter issue at all. Can you take the lifters out of the equation right now and not get hung up on that? If you don't want solid lifters with the camshafts then don't put them in the engine at the time of the camshaft installation. The lifters are completely irrelevant, the camshaft profile is the issue.

 

Jbp, like I said I'll take the first set. Let me know what you want to do from here.

 

Yes it will chug with stg2 and stg3

 

My custom pistons have HUGE valve reliefs, I'd love some high ratio rockers. Would make my ported head flow a **** ton.

 

are you high?

the 1400hp draq ecotecs don't even run that much lift. this is not a small block chevy. stock cams are .395 lift. look at those flow numbers, not .500


and to jbp. you might want to inform the end user of what you are supposed to do the head to run solid lifters.

this is not a drop and and go have fun situation people are going to be dealing with here. there is tuning involved. a lot of it. if you have never tuned an lsj, if you never delt with one on cams, be prepared to spend a lot of time on these.

if the STOCK base circle was kept. there would not be a need for solid lifters. so this right here makes me wonder

 

thanks for that tid bit bry. It's refreshing to have someone that knows what the **** they are talking about come in and let some air out of the bag.

 

Well apparently JBP just wants us to "take the lifters out of the equation right now and not get hung up on that". But one can only wonder why they would even bring them up if they wanted to offer a truly bolt-on camp setup.

 

i will NOT run solid lifters in my daily driver.
i will NOT machine the head to accept these
i will NOT run lash checks every 3 months on my daily driver.

 

so would it really be worth it if im just gonna do 60s, 2.8, meth or 35shot, and tune?

and JBP i was asking like wat parts are need to run ur cams? not tools but other parts need so the cams run good like the lifters and valve springs