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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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So go buy your stage kit, then come back and buy this and add another 20 hp on top of your stage kit.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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So go buy your stage kit, then come back and buy this and add another 20 hp on top of your stage kit.
im savin to install that in the spring. i doin full exhaust first then uppin the boost. so im lookin at headers right now. and these would be perfect. but so expensive!!!! grrr. o well. looks like i'll just have to save up a lil bit more.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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So go buy your stage kit, then come back and buy this and add another 20 hp on top of your stage kit.
some of us don't have all the money in the world to dump into our cobalts and we have to make our money go a long way when we do spend it. if i had the cobalt when i had my last car it would have gotten the royal treatment but i'm still trying to pay back some of the $17k in mods i put into my last car.

twice the hp should be twice the price, four times is nuts. kinetix did the same thing with their intake manifold for the 350Z's and hardly anyone bought them because they were $850. a lot of them kept the $850 and put it into other mods.

don't forget they're claiming 20-25whp WITH 3.0" intake and 3.0" catback exhaust. what are the gains if you put the header on a bone stock car? probably not that much better than another header that it would warrant spending $800 on it rather than $200 on another brand. all the other brands claim power of the header alone. JBP has only listed numbers with supporting mods. i wonder why, i'd like to see the gains of just the header on a stock vehicle.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GSoccer24
some of us don't have all the money in the world to dump into our cobalts and we have to make our money go a long way when we do spend it. if i had the cobalt when i had my last car it would have gotten the royal treatment but i'm still trying to pay back some of the $17k in mods i put into my last car.

twice the hp should be twice the price, four times is nuts. kinetix did the same thing with their intake manifold for the 350Z's and hardly anyone bought them because they were $850. a lot of them kept the $850 and put it into other mods.

don't forget they're claiming 20-25whp WITH 3.0" intake and 3.0" catback exhaust. what are the gains if you put the header on a bone stock car? probably not that much better than another header that it would warrant spending $800 on it rather than $200 on another brand. all the other brands claim power of the header alone. JBP has only listed numbers with supporting mods. i wonder why, i'd like to see the gains of just the header on a stock vehicle.
There are many choices out there for headers and without final testing, we do not have final numbers to discuss any definitive results vs. other headers. Also, our header is being designed for a modified engine, not a stock engine for that reason that a modified engine will have increased VE vs. less boost and more work / litre displacement. It will be tuned not for just a stock engine, because modding doesn't stop at a header, it goes beyond that... this is what our header engineering encompasses.

At any rate, and not to sound repetitous; if the header is too expensive for a customer, there are plenty more to choose from.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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believe me there will be people buyin this header just come out with the numbers of how much hp and then well talk money.....

also, if you make your down pipe 2 1/2 so it will fit into my corsa exhaust i think you will have alot more customers....
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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believe me there will be people buyin this header just come out with the numbers of how much hp and then well talk money.....

also, if you make your down pipe 2 1/2 so it will fit into my corsa exhaust i think you will have alot more customers....

I'm sure they will make a 3.0" and 2.5" DP


But I will for sure buy this header when it comes out. A header and DP are next on my mod list.. Along with that new hotness Hurst Shifter
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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As long as it bolts up to the stock downpipe (not that I still have it) I'll be happy.

I'd like to see pics of where exactly you need to shave that 1/8 inch
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Question:

What are the chances of you guys making a header that isn't as extreme as this one? I would still like to have equal length primaries but they don't need to be as long. Just a suggestion, let us know if something like that may be in the works.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Come Mid-End November, We're releasing the header with only a 3.0" dump. We have a 3.0" downpipe made by our manufacturer. A 2.5" shouldn't be difficult to offer.... We have no other header plans in our future, this will be the only one we make.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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What is this slight modification you speak of to make it fit
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
What is this slight modification you speak of to make it fit
You have to grind a boss off of the head from the factory casting or something like that. It was mentioned in another thread someplace.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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I wish I could lower the price, but, such is the way w/costing. We'll try to do it differently Anyways, this header is essentially a long-tube header that fits into the stock location with a minor modification to the cylinder head and you can bolt up aftermarket exhausts. There's still enhancements to do to the unit we're using in testing (to squeeze every last ounce of power). I want to get at least 20~25WHP off a stock engine w/intake & exhaust only.[/QUOTE]


no offense what so ever in any way.....but for 800 - 900 dollars you shouldn't have to modify anything
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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no offense what so ever in any way.....but for 800 - 900 dollars you shouldn't have to modify anything
We're modifying production to try and actually get rid of this minor mod. It's just a space constraint issue...
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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I saw the Header and what had to be ground, at it really is F%$# all (no big deal). but it is better that it's being fixed
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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i myself am a hvac guy and that is an impressive symphony of welding, i would just like confirmation that this will fit for the 2.4 guys?
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dcsdillpickle
i myself am a hvac guy and that is an impressive symphony of welding, i would just like confirmation that this will fit for the 2.4 guys?
it fits 100%
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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well if hahn doesnt hurry up im just going to stick to all motor and see where it takes me, at that point i will just drive my car to jbp and buy all of it right out of their shop
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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have i missed the latest updte on the header. wasnt it mentioned to be out end of NOV. What is the latest?
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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anyway i can be one of the first to get this here header i would love to get my hands on it.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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..........jbp........are you there..............heeelllloooooo................. .anyone................
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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if u go to their website the release date says december 1st
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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if u go to their website the release date says december 1st
indeed it does...........imagine that!!!!!!! (thnaks for pointing that out )

Does anyone know how "electropolished" compare to ceramic, or stainless? How corrosive resistant is it?

did the problem with having to grind on the head get fixed?

downpipe?

Jbody, can we get some pics of the inside of the collector?

i'm sure there will be some more later!
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Does anyone know how "electropolished" compare to ceramic, or stainless? How corrosive resistant is it?
Electropolishing is a method to remove strong extrusion marks and polish the primaries so they are not dull. The material stays the same, T304 Stainless Steel (medical grade).

did the problem with having to grind on the head get fixed?
We're working on that. It still might have to be done.

downpipe?
Early February.

Jbody, can we get some pics of the inside of the collector?
I will get some pics up on the website.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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is a dyno date set?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Still watching this one...
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