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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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same here.. the header looks very impressive.. i love the way it looks.. hopefully it will perform that way too which i'm sure it will.. we can probably use any DP as long as it has a 3" flex pipe piece and then whatever size your exhaust is
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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its out today and i am excited i cant wait to hear the word on the gains. i am planning on getting this when i get home if the gains are there. and i more than likely will do full jbp if i go this route.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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What's involved in making this minor mod.. a dremel?


Holy crap.. I just read on their website....."With the best gains in the market, you are definatley getting what you pay for. In combination with our JBP Vortex exhaust and JBP Vortex intake, we've achieved an unpresidented full 31WHP gain! This is truly unbelivable and far exceeds our projected gains of 15-20WHP."


WOW
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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got those collector pics up yet? What are the overall #'s on the dynoed car? (i know 31 hp, but what did the car actually make? dyno kind?)
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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that sounds pretty tastey wish i could see their site so i could have a look around.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS422
Holy crap.. I just read on their website....."With the best gains in the market, you are definatley getting what you pay for. In combination with our JBP Vortex exhaust and JBP Vortex intake, we've achieved an unpresidented full 31WHP gain! This is truly unbelivable and far exceeds our projected gains of 15-20WHP."
To me this seems to say with the intake, 3" exhaust and the manifold they made 31whp...Isn't that what almost what everyone can make off of that? So the manifold was like 10whp?...maybe

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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The only real way to tell is a before/after dyno on the same day at the same temp. I would probably guess the header contributed 15-20whp of that though.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
To me this seems to say with the intake, 3" exhaust and the manifold they made 31whp...Isn't that what almost what everyone can make off of that? So the manifold was like 10whp?...maybe
wtf? your posting over here, but been missing from RLF!!

On topic:

I second the need for collector pics!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
To me this seems to say with the intake, 3" exhaust and the manifold they made 31whp...Isn't that what almost what everyone can make off of that? So the manifold was like 10whp?...maybe

It was with Intake, and 3" exhaust but still.. How much hp do u think u actually get from adding a CAI.. 3-5hp and adding a cat-back exhaust maybe around 10hp.. Just guessing... So 15-20hp for this header is awesome. That's more than anything that's out on the market right now.. I think I saw a dyno for the GMPP manifold and that had like a 5hp gain or something
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS422
It was with Intake, and 3" exhaust but still.. How much hp do u think u actually get from adding a CAI.. 3-5hp and adding a cat-back exhaust maybe around 10hp.. Just guessing... So 15-20hp for this header is awesome. That's more than anything that's out on the market right now.. I think I saw a dyno for the GMPP manifold and that had like a 5hp gain or something

I have yet to see actual number for this header. Maybe I just missed it
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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I have yet to see actual number for this header. Maybe I just missed it
Nope, 31whp gain with an intake, manifold and exhaust is all. No number for just the manifold. Not sure if it was stock downpipe or not.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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dude i wanna buy one and put it on my coffee table. i cant deal with that slight modification to my engine. that things a tad over engineered man. it looks bad ******* ass, the damn thing is **** and by far the best looking header ever. but in terms of practicality....
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoPuma6
dude i wanna buy one and put it on my coffee table. i cant deal with that slight modification to my engine. that things a tad over engineered man. it looks bad ******* ass, the damn thing is **** and by far the best looking header ever. but in terms of practicality....
Thanks for the compliments in the looks department and the "over-engineered" compliment. But retract it back a couple steps as its "perfectly-engineered". The "slight modification" is no more as the production unit eliminates this step.

Nope, 31whp gain with an intake, manifold and exhaust is all. No number for just the manifold. Not sure if it was stock downpipe or not.
I have yet to see actual number for this header. Maybe I just missed it
We're testing the header, not a manifold. Also, the 30WHP gain as we've seen with the full JBP exhaust setup includes our " 3.0 inch " downpipe and I say this with reservation because there is a variation on the actual diameter of the JBP downpipe flange in the range of 3.75" for increased flow. To test the header with a stock exhaust and intake isn't why we designed this header. We've engineered the header to work in combination with a 3.0" exhaust and 3.0" Air Intake. Which is why we got the big numbers we got. We realize that the majority of customers aren't going to just slap in the header and be done with it. They'll install the header, install the exhaust, intake, port the head, cams, etc... JBPs' vortex header is for that type of customer, who goes all out.
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Thanks for the compliments in the looks department and the "over-engineered" compliment. But retract it back a couple steps as its "perfectly-engineered". The "slight modification" is no more as the production unit eliminates this step.
sorry bout the over engineered thing. it looks bad ass, i wanna buy a bunch and have them colored different colors, i swear it ******* art! and too expensive. i cant hold a hammer to save my life. hence why im not willing to do that slight mod. imagine me showing up to the dealer and asking them to perform the mod lol. it looks bad ass and i am absolutely dieing to hear it. what did you mean by the production unit eliminates the slight mod? i wont have to shave and scrape? i understand why its so expensive, just look at it! but any chance of that price coming down a bit. any more pics of the header? and the collector?
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoPuma6
sorry bout the over engineered thing. it looks bad ass, i wanna buy a bunch and have them colored different colors, i swear it ******* art! and too expensive. i cant hold a hammer to save my life. hence why im not willing to do that slight mod. imagine me showing up to the dealer and asking them to perform the mod lol. it looks bad ass and i am absolutely dieing to hear it. what did you mean by the production unit eliminates the slight mod? i wont have to shave and scrape? i understand why its so expensive, just look at it! but any chance of that price coming down a bit. any more pics of the header? and the collector?
I love the comment about a piece of art. Maybe the ROM (royal ontario musem) might take it as a piece depicting the struggle of modern man.

I tried to get a material cost break-down a while back with 10 units and it still worked out to like a saving of only $20 bucks/header. It's just so expensive because of the materials. If we can figure out a way to make the header, cheaper, it'll be posted right away.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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one question for JBP though:

Was your baseline done with the 3" intake and full 3" exhaust?

Or did you gain 30 whp by adding all three items?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Thanks for the compliments in the looks department and the "over-engineered" compliment. But retract it back a couple steps as its "perfectly-engineered". The "slight modification" is no more as the production unit eliminates this step.
Well, if you guys worked that slight mod out, then theres no way I'm not getting this now. I was thinking about it before, but now it's a sure thing
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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looks so sexy, I cant help it. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. ..........................wow, that was strong.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ljavy17
looks so sexy, I cant help it. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. ..........................wow, that was strong.

Clean up after yourself mang...

one question for JBP though:

Was your baseline done with the 3" intake and full 3" exhaust?

Or did you gain 30 whp by adding all three items?
Stock, then add on all exhaust components and CAI.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Awesome.. It's a definate purchase for me as well.. as for the down pipe.... the header has a 3" collector right? I have the Corsa Sport cat-back, so I can purchase a DP that goes from 3" to 2.5"?
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS422
Awesome.. It's a definate purchase for me as well.. as for the down pipe.... the header has a 3" collector right? I have the Corsa Sport cat-back, so I can purchase a DP that goes from 3" to 2.5"?
We're offering the header with a 2.5" collector AND 2.5" downpipe to server the masses. whatever you guys want, we'll make.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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So is there anything new with this? Is the slight modification not needed anymore? Could I have the collector 3" and a 3" to 2.5" DP to connect to the exhaust in case i ever upgrade to a full 3" exhaust? Obviously it's better to combine the Vortex DP with the Vortex Header any reason why another DP won't work? I'm probably going to purchase within the next couple weeks. Want to have it and install it for spring time. Man i can't wait!!

ps. and what about the 02 sensor spot. I need the stock location because I don't have a wideband yet
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 03:29 AM
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bump for ^^^^^ answers
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Old May 2, 2007 | 03:16 AM
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does anyone have the JBP header in their balt? if so how do you like it?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Does it fit yet?
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