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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Trifecta or HP Tuners Chicagoland area!!!

Ok, with still debating on what to do with my balt, if I do keep it, the turbo is going on asap. If I do keep it, I need someone locally to help me tune it. Loud ss/sc was supposed to do it, but he hasn't been on here since November. Anyone??? I need a price too
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Hey I was talking to a guy in Bridgeview since im right by midway as well. He is a trifecta tuner, but with no shop or anything.. But his name is on the Trifecta website so i wonder if hes good or not. If anything I will get my car retuned this spring and let you know how he is.. hopefully you decide to keep the balt by that time.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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Trifecta is a canned tune canned tunes are junk. PM me for details since i am not a vendor here, I can't list the pricing. I offer street and dyno tuning. PM me a mods list too.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Canned yes but is it good canned

Ur right on the canned part. But is it good and from what I hear it is really good. I personally want a custom tune since I'm in Chicago and it's 600ft above sea level. But not sure how much it would cost for a custom tune
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxercobaltdriver
Ur right on the canned part. But is it good and from what I hear it is really good. I personally want a custom tune since I'm in Chicago and it's 600ft above sea level. But not sure how much it would cost for a custom tune
I'll PM ya.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Trifecta is a canned tune canned tunes are junk. PM me for details since i am not a vendor here, I can't list the pricing. I offer street and dyno tuning. PM me a mods list too.
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trifecta is a custom tune.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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trifecta is a custom tune.
No, it is not for many reasons. First, Vince is a computer programmer, and does a great job doing programming. His tunes leave MUCH to be desired. Second, TF is a semi custom tune, but when the tuner can't ride in the car and diagnose and tune accordingly, its not a custom tune. Vince can't run the car on the dyno, he can't tune according to the weather in the region, and he can't diagnose the car if there are issues.

A custom tune in the region knows how to tune for the weather. For instance, here in the midwest, we have harsh winters, unlike many places in the nation. I have tuned many cars, and I know how to tune for the region. Vince may have BEEN to Chicago, but probably not in the winter, and probably not to tune a car. Plus, if you have issues, you can't just call up the shop and tell them whats up.

I guess it boils down to being each to their own, but saying Trifecta is a custom tune is not quite right.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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vince is a great programmer and great software writer but he should stay away from tuning cars...... some of his tables are scary
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mkriebs
No, it is not for many reasons. First, Vince is a computer programmer, and does a great job doing programming. His tunes leave MUCH to be desired. Second, TF is a semi custom tune, but when the tuner can't ride in the car and diagnose and tune accordingly, its not a custom tune. Vince can't run the car on the dyno, he can't tune according to the weather in the region, and he can't diagnose the car if there are issues.
A custom tune in the region knows how to tune for the weather. For instance, here in the midwest, we have harsh winters, unlike many places in the nation. I have tuned many cars, and I know how to tune for the region. Vince may have BEEN to Chicago, but probably not in the winter, and probably not to tune a car. Plus, if you have issues, you can't just call up the shop and tell them whats up.

I guess it boils down to being each to their own, but saying Trifecta is a custom tune is not quite right.
a custom tune is a tune that is meant for YOUR car and your car only. vince adjusts the tune for your mods, type of gas, DA, temperature, etc. it all shows when you datalog. vince doesnt have to go to chicago to see what its like. all you have to do is datalog and send it to him, he will see what needs to be adjusted. if the weather gets colder (like summer ending and winter starting) all u gotta do is datalog and shoot him an email, and bam, problem solved. its actually more convinient than having to rely on meeting up with someone in person for every little kink in the tune. also, vince could outtune a very large number of people who use hptuners.

trifecta is most definently a custom tune. theres nothing canned about it. a canned tune would be gms1 or zzp tune.

and about the "leaves much to be desired" actually that is false. ive seem plenty of trifecta cars beat hptuned cars. and vice verca. vince makes sure his tunes are a little on thhe safe side tho. it all boils down to what u prefer.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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a custom tune is a tune that is meant for YOUR car and your car only. vince adjusts the tune for your mods, type of gas, DA, temperature, etc. it all shows when you datalog. vince doesnt have to go to chicago to see what its like. all you have to do is datalog and send it to him, he will see what needs to be adjusted. if the weather gets colder (like summer ending and winter starting) all u gotta do is datalog and shoot him an email, and bam, problem solved. its actually more convinient than having to rely on meeting up with someone in person for every little kink in the tune. also, vince could outtune a very large number of people who use hptuners.

trifecta is most definently a custom tune. theres nothing canned about it. a canned tune would be gms1 or zzp tune.

and about the "leaves much to be desired" actually that is false. ive seem plenty of trifecta cars beat hptuned cars. and vice verca. vince makes sure his tunes are a little on thhe safe side tho. it all boils down to what u prefer.
I have seen alot of Trifecta cars blow up. My shop has more experience tuning LNF's than any shop. We have yet to see one blow up from our tune. How's that for safety?

Like i said, to each their own, I guess.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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trifecta is a custom tune, furthermore a trifecta dealer data logs. Therefore it is a custom tune, Idk where you get your information. Since your in an LNF shop you should probably know, kids drive cobalts, kids like 25psi, kid breaks car. As long as target boost is acquired with proper timing & afr a motor should not blow up.

also trifecta has many fuel tables not available on hptuners, which is why many people are having a dual tune going on.

trifecta is data-logged by dealers, trifecta is data-logged by dealers...
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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yeah well i cant even tell you how much i have seen kid want 28-30 psi and vince originally saying its ok with infina boost and bye bye rings or pistons....24psi on an lnf is max....anymore your flowing hot air
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mkriebs
I have seen alot of Trifecta cars blow up. My shop has more experience tuning LNF's than any shop. We have yet to see one blow up from our tune. How's that for safety?

Like i said, to each their own, I guess.
thats probably because they got the "infiniboost" tune. which is a big nono. those guys get tuned to 25psi or more.

trifecta is very safe as long as u keep it below 24 psi (id assume any tune below 24 psi would be safe if the tuner is ok)

also, the options trifecta has is well worth the tune as well. having a selectable tune is very convinient.

the best tune out there still remains the trifecta/hptune combo tho. however trifecta alone will be fine for me. 22 psi and 320whp selectable tune sounds nice to me.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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the only thing needed by viince is his fueling. the fact hes even willing to tune to more then 25+ shouldnt even happen weather people want it or not. personally i havent had luck with his tuning even with hpt over it....i made more power on my stock fuel tables alone then i would have been able to with vinces fuel tables.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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HPTuners for the win!
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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kenny shut your mouth your cars slow. JK.

mkriebs you have a PM

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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by turbohornet88
kenny shut your mouth your cars slow. JK.

mkriebs you have a PM
Lol... gettin ya back right now.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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I'll PM ya.
I was about to post for him to look for you hahhahahhaha
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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I was about to post for him to look for you hahhahahhaha
WHA!? I thought you died... again. Haha. You need to come out sometime bro!
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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Yeah i know i just have my son like every night. you has a pm
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