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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:16 PM
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Echeck was gone at one point in Summit. Then they brought it back because they are r-tards.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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i know that some new bill that passed had something in it about echeck but i dont know what specifically.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:58 AM
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its a tune haha. and $350 with a hour of dyno time
well i been doing some reading today i think i understand it a bit better...ill look into that place, it kinda looks like a hpt may be better than a trifecta tho.
and thanks.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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Been working on my car like crazy to get through echeck (I have to pass the sniffer, the old way). I go tomorrow, wish me luck! Take a hard 30 minute drive pull up to the place and hopefully pass! I went back to a few stock pieces so hopefully this gets me to driving it around to see you guys this summer!
Why do you have to sniff it?

Why can't you do the computer test?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Why do you have to sniff it?

Why can't you do the computer test?
Listen to Dirty. He's the expert at "trying" to avoid E-Check. I think we visited about 4-5 different e-checks to try and get his EVO to pass. In the end, he moved to a county that doesn't require e-check lol
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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I live in Wayne county. I don't have e-check. It's BARELY Wayne county, but it is. A bunch of my friends may be using my address to get past e-check.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Ya see thats were im fucked when i come home i dont have a catted DP only a catless and i have a new turbo kit and a catted dp is like 400 bucks...do the echecks still do the sniff test or only the plug in gas cap test i cant remember
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by paintballerr78
Ya see thats were im fucked when i come home i dont have a catted DP only a catless and i have a new turbo kit and a catted dp is like 400 bucks...do the echecks still do the sniff test or only the plug in gas cap test i cant remember
they plug it in, if all ecu bits are in a state of "ready" and there are no CEL codes, you pass.

If there are CEL codes, you fail.

If ECU bits are not in a state of ready, then they sniff test it.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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oh so basically if we have a tune and all codes are deleted itll pass then? or can they read the tune
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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oh so basically if we have a tune and all codes are deleted itll pass then? or can they read the tune
It's not so much the tune. It's turning off the bits and codes that their computer searches for. The bits that read "ready" as in "everything is fine", are the ones that it searches for, on top of CELs.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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oh so basically if we have a tune and all codes are deleted itll pass then? or can they read the tune
It depends on the tune.

Certain tunes will disable CEL bits by putting them in a permanent state of "unready" so the CEL never turns on. These will cause them to have to sniff it.

Other tunes will disable the CEL's through other means. These tunes can pass.

While other tunes do nothing to CEL bits. These will pass if there are no CEL codes and fail if there are.

It also depends on when the car was tuned. If a car was freshly flashed, or has been sitting for a long time with a dead battery, the ECU has reset and all the bits are set to "unready" while the ECU recalibrates for environmental conditions, fuel conditions, and driving habits. Once all those bits have "readied" it'll pass.

My experience is it takes about 50 miles of driving and/or a couple hours of engine on time for the bits to become ready. But it varies vehicle-to-vehicle and I know very little about Cobalts in that respect.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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ya id have my tune on for couple months probably hahah so well see if not just register my car in north dakota rather than ohio since they dont have emissions laws
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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You are correct about the sniff part. My computer had a few parts that were not ready as a CEL was just cleared. I failed 2 echecks but passed today with flying colors. I am now good to go for all driving purposes. I hope to see a few balts around and about this summer in the Akron area. Good luck with the sniff test if you have to. They definitely do an inspection for a cat. If they plug into the obd and get nothing then you pass and all is good.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ssblacksc
You are correct about the sniff part. My computer had a few parts that were not ready as a CEL was just cleared. I failed 2 echecks but passed today with flying colors. I am now good to go for all driving purposes. I hope to see a few balts around and about this summer in the Akron area. Good luck with the sniff test if you have to. They definitely do an inspection for a cat. If they plug into the obd and get nothing then you pass and all is good.
I'm sure I'll see you and vice versa. I'm apparently the only moron who wants to put sport red trim on his victory red cobalt.

Also, I seen a Victory Red TC driving down 77 South today, just a little past Broadway. Anyone?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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I think im just going to move to a county that doesnt require it. If any of you guys are ever in the kent area you'll probably see me rollin around
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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so you can pass it with a catless dp? dont want to put my stock one on if i dont have to.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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I had 2 people with mirrors looking under my car today. Mine is lowered pretty good but they still were checking for a cat. I believe that it is state law to have a cat. I would either make a shell and bolt it on to look like one or unfortunately find a catted downpipe. Good Luck!
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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ya if i have to ill just register my car in another state only thing i hate is tint law but just keep dem windows down or sunroof open
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Yes, a catted down pipe is needed during the E Check. If they see something funny, they will dig deeper.

When I had my truck checked last year, they looked for both cats, one on each side.

Lifter, you are just special. Was the Victory Red TC a sedan or a coupe? I have seen a Sedan around.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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I know people who have passed w/o catalytic converts. I know someone that passed a sniff test with no cats (E85)!

It depends on how cool the technician is, how low your car is, and if the technician likes the car.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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Photo op!







Oh and here's a good picture of the Sport Red Trim for all the haters;


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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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probably gonna go take some pics sunday, maybe thursday. i dont care if i have a 4x4 stance all my pics are so old haha
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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ya i still have time for a echeck my car is a 2010 ill find a way to pass echeck or not ahha
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:01 AM
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Photo op!







Oh and here's a good picture of the Sport Red Trim for all the haters;

the pic with the CVS in the background, where is this?
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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looks like im puttin off gettin a new clutch till winter time...Some things came up and now gotta put building up the car on hold..
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