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Old 07-22-2012, 07:17 PM
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Who tunes in northeast ohio?

I need someone to tune my car. Someone who can get 60s to idle normal. My car was just tuned and it sucks. The a/f ratio is all over the place. The fuel trims seem to be maxed out. I don't have hp tuners so I can't data log. I have a wideband I just installed. Every cold start it idle surges for the first like 5 mins. It's way too rich it's pegged at 10. Also if I put it in neutral and coast it idle surges until it stops. While cruising it bounces anywhere from 13 to maxed out lean. The tune blows *****. I did all my own tuning on the Dsm and it was perfect. This was done by someone who supposedly knew how to tune these cars so I don't want another person experimenting. Don't really want to drive more than a couple hours. I'm located in Beloit Ohio.
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First off, did it start doing this right when you were tuned or a day or more after? Tunes do not change on their own and if you are having trouble you shouldn't have let the tuner leave before fixing it. If the problem developed later, then there is another issue besides the tune. Any codes to pull? Check the O2 sensors, clean the maf, look for leaks. If it is anything other than the tune, retuning will not do anything to fix it.

That said, there are tuners around but I do not know them any longer. I can tune you. I have tuned numerous cobalts, including my own. Unfortunately, I am in Dayton
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
First off, did it start doing this right when you were tuned or a day or more after? Tunes do not change on their own and if you are having trouble you shouldn't have let the tuner leave before fixing it. If the problem developed later, then there is another issue besides the tune. Any codes to pull? Check the O2 sensors, clean the maf, look for leaks. If it is anything other than the tune, retuning will not do anything to fix it.

That said, there are tuners around but I do not know them any longer. I can tune you. I have tuned numerous cobalts, including my own. Unfortunately, I am in Dayton
With what HPTuners?

Kidding. You know you're welcome to it whenever.
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No codes which I'm surprised because I'm sure the fuel trims are maxed out. I would lile to see what the combined fuel trim is now but no logger. When I got the car it was warmed up so the problem didn't show. On the way home it was really hot out so I thought the afr was a little crazy because of that (it was like 99* out) it stayed like that though. The coasting thing is annoying when ever I come up to a light it idle surges until I come to a stop. When I did the Dsm at cruising I never went out of the range of low 14s-mid 15s. Like I said this stupid thing goes from 13 to maxed out lean just cruising. Haven't even went wot because I'm afraid of what the afr is going to be.
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Originally Posted by TStone
With what HPTuners?

Kidding. You know you're welcome to it whenever.
Ha, maybe I should have gotten that verbal contract in writing :P
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Originally Posted by Superbalt06
No codes which I'm surprised because I'm sure the fuel trims are maxed out. I would lile to see what the combined fuel trim is now but no logger. When I got the car it was warmed up so the problem didn't show. On the way home it was really hot out so I thought the afr was a little crazy because of that (it was like 99* out) it stayed like that though. The coasting thing is annoying when ever I come up to a light it idle surges until I come to a stop. When I did the Dsm at cruising I never went out of the range of low 14s-mid 15s. Like I said this stupid thing goes from 13 to maxed out lean just cruising. Haven't even went wot because I'm afraid of what the afr is going to be.
If you feel up to making the trek down to Dayton, I'll help ya out. I just can't think of who is in NE Ohio and has HPT still.. Unless they turned off codes (they shouldn't have, unless you're catless. And only the cat codes in that case..) it should be showing SOME kind of codes. Run up to Autozone and get it checked for soft codes (don't trigger the cel)
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Come see Wicked and we'll get together. Get some good pizza. See what else we can do to the Mazda and fix your car.. & i'll influence you to get a TVS ^.^
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PM'd you, I work like 5 minutes away from Beloit.
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Aaron at RealTune Performance (North Ridgeville) has records upon records for fastest SRT4s.

You could also contact B3R (Brunswick) who actually has an in-house dyno they can tune on.

Hope that helps!

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Aaron can not tune cobalts. He does not even want to start to try it he says.
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Aaron can not tune cobalts. He does not even want to start to try it he says.
Weird...try B3R I guess
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youll be paying a arm and a leg if you goto B3R haha
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Originally Posted by BPacak
youll be paying a arm and a leg if you goto B3R haha
I've never gotten that impression from them. Don't think they're any more expensive than anyone else. Get what you pay for though, especially with something as important as a tune, no? A bad tune could cost you thousands in the long run, just my opinion.
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Yeah i know thats true, but they wanted $500 for just the trifecta tune, and they said hpt would be even more. I ended up going to t.i. dyno and they did a great job. really nice guy
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Originally Posted by BPacak
Yeah i know thats true, but they wanted $500 for just the trifecta tune, and they said hpt would be even more. I ended up going to t.i. dyno and they did a great job. really nice guy
Is it really $500 for a tune? I've know the guys for about 10 years now, they're good guys, just didn't know it was $500 for a tune. That has to be like tuning a stand a lone from scratch, no?
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$500 is absurd! And to think all these years I've done $225 and that is with retunes later for gas money...
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
$500 is absurd! And to think all these years I've done $225 and that is with retunes later for gas money...
I'll call Rick today and see what the deal is...$500 has to be for an AEM EMS or something
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I'll send a base file for the OP's mods if the shop will dial it in for a reasonable charge
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Chuck said their pricing is $130 an hour. They would cap it at $450 depending on how F-ed up the car was. He said they've gotten cars in before that were just a disaster and nothing was even hooked up right (sensors & electronics) so they implemented a cap to help the customers out a bit.
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As long as all sensors are hooked up and functioning correctly, flashing a good base file and doing a few tweaks will be an hour or less as long as they know what they are doing. Which would be cheaper than the gas/time to come to Dayton. Not that I wouldn't want to help
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I had aces take a look at it and the guy that tuned it had it set up for the wrong injectors. He had it set up for 42s instead of 60s. We're still in the process because I think I may have an exhaust leak because my wideband is still being weird.
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