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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Help, I am new and need your experience please!

Hey every one, I am new to Cobalt's but not new to cars at all, I have built a few forced induction cars but never a 4 cylinder.

I work at a Chevy dealership as a technician, and in our used car lot there has been this 2005 red chevy cobalt SS/SC for 3 months.

At first I really liked it, until I drove it. It had a few issues (to many issues for the price.)

but now it has been another month and we still have it and the price is in my grasp to where I could look past its flaws.


Here is the run down of the car.

2005 SS/SC red with red/black interior.
115k miles, all stock except cosmetics.

at first they wanted 6700$
3 months later it is down to 4900$
since I work there and know the guy well enough
I could most likely get the car for 4 grand.
I would like to know if that is a good price to over look the miles.

The GOOD.
New tires, paint is good no dents
New brakes, car runs well except it bogs or dips at idle so I am guessing throttle body is all gummed up with blow by.

The BAD
quarter size rust spot on door just a little bubble under the paint but body shop said 50$ to fix it.
needs a new muffler, the after market one is way to loud.
front bumper plastic thing that goes down under neath is gone.
shifter seems really loose and insecure.
2nd gear synchro grinds, but might just be the shifter loose.
shift boot is torn.
needs new interior radio trim ring, its painted red.

do you guys think this is worth 4 grand???
i would trade in my current DD and they will give me 2200, so i would owe 1800 on it
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 07:03 AM
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Does it have the G85 option? Assuming it does, with the two tone interior, but pop the trunk and look under the carpet on the driver side. There is a tag. Look for G85. That is the LSD option. I sold my Black Stage II non LSD car for 3500 with 103k miles. The car ran great, but needed paint. I would say it should be at least in that area, FYI with rust, if it has a bubbled rust area, then expect a lot more of it around that area, and in other places on the car. I see GM still hasn't gotten the rust issue fixed. They have been bad since the 60s. Little things like the boot rotting is normal. The shifter feeling sloppy is usually the cables needing adjusting. There are threads on how to do that. I did it to mine, and it helped. Anyways I am sure more people will help. Welcome! Post pics of the car if you have it.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 06:27 AM
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okay so I drove the car home and around town a lot, I am liking the gas mileage a lot more than my 3000gt lol.

at idle it has started to make a diesel noise which I gather to be the timing chain/tensioner.

other than that the car is pretty good, needs some fixes, like the blacked out tail lights and other bull **** that looks and is stupid.

I told the dealer ship "fix it and i'll buy it" they sent it down the hall to my buddy craig so it is in good hands! hopefully I can drive it home permanently tomorrow.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackielawlessSS
Does it have the G85 option? Assuming it does, with the two tone interior, but pop the trunk and look under the carpet on the driver side. There is a tag. Look for G85. That is the LSD option. I sold my Black Stage II non LSD car for 3500 with 103k miles. The car ran great, but needed paint. I would say it should be at least in that area, FYI with rust, if it has a bubbled rust area, then expect a lot more of it around that area, and in other places on the car. I see GM still hasn't gotten the rust issue fixed. They have been bad since the 60s. Little things like the boot rotting is normal. The shifter feeling sloppy is usually the cables needing adjusting. There are threads on how to do that. I did it to mine, and it helped. Anyways I am sure more people will help. Welcome! Post pics of the car if you have it.
I don't think two tone interior is a sighn of g85 option. Unless that was only in 05.
Recaros would mean g85
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by slapbetcommissioner
I don't think two tone interior is a sighn of g85 option. Unless that was only in 05.
Recaros would mean g85
Correct. Two tone interior back in 05' & 06' meant none G85.

In late 07', G85 came with the standard seats.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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Fix it, Buy it, Drive it, Love it. Mine is my summer daily driver. Winters in the Mitten are to harsh for these soft paint cars.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 10:56 PM
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What model 3000gt do you have?

Any idea what's been done to it modification wise? Post some pictures of how it sits, the exhaust, possibly a picture of the springs and under hood pics as well.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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hey guys, so to clear up some question…it has new struts, new brakes and new tires…

I have a VR4 3000gt (AWD TT) and a non turbo dodge stealth (mild build).

To sum up the cobalt…unfortunately craig took a very close look at it, he said it needs a timing chain and tensioner, he also said while I'm in there I might as well do the water pump chain and tensioner.

the dealership (with my discount) said 500$ to do it, let me tell you guys I can not justify paying 4k for a car, plus 500$ to get it going again, that is not including the tail lights it needs and the cat back exhaust it needs.

I am fully capable of doing the labor my self..so my final question for all of you is, how long does it take to do both chains/tensioners. and what is needed to do it?

I know how to set timing on interference motors so there is no issue there.

the full kit (not including valve cover gasket) through the dealership is 125$.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TMR_COBALT
okay so I drove the car home and around town a lot, I am liking the gas mileage a lot more than my 3000gt lol.

at idle it has started to make a diesel noise which I gather to be the timing chain/tensioner.

other than that the car is pretty good, needs some fixes, like the blacked out tail lights and other bull **** that looks and is stupid.

I told the dealer ship "fix it and i'll buy it" they sent it down the hall to my buddy craig so it is in good hands! hopefully I can drive it home permanently tomorrow.
I think you may had just became a lot of people's enemy for this lololololololol
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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you have to understand, really wish I had a picture of this car…..the previous kid that owned it blacked out the tail lights so much! that black paint dripped off on onto the bumper! the lights are so dark I will get pulled over once in every county, and the exhaust is straight piped to a resonator and SLP tip
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TMR_COBALT
you have to understand, really wish I had a picture of this car…..the previous kid that owned it blacked out the tail lights so much! that black paint dripped off on onto the bumper! the lights are so dark I will get pulled over once in every county, and the exhaust is straight piped to a resonator and SLP tip
Oh that's how he did it? Then you are right
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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yeah it looks like he just taped them off and sprayed, than the paint ran down and dripped everywhere.

I will have to get photos.

but I haven't bought it yet.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TMR_COBALT
yeah it looks like he just taped them off and sprayed, than the paint ran down and dripped everywhere.

I will have to get photos.

but I haven't bought it yet.
If he didn't take them off, which takes all of 1 minute, than yep its a douche bag tint.....

I just tinted mine cherry red ...I did hate the OEM clown red.
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 02:12 AM
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It looks okay on a red car though.

Whatever you do just keep the VR-4 as a nice weekend car.
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 02:56 AM
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Keep the Vr4 please!
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 06:45 AM
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oh ill be keeping my VR4, she is my pride and joy, I will be trading in my ugly ass buick if I get the cobalt.
heres some pictures for you guys, Ill get cobalt pictures soon
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 08:41 PM
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Very sexy. Put a big front mount in it!!
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Nice VR4!

You stick out like a sore thumb at whatever car show you took that at lol.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 09:21 PM
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Love me a VR4, beautiful car.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 12:21 AM
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Are you on the VR4 forums? My friend in Houston has a 93 red VR4 TT. Its absolutely beautiful. He stops shows every time we go to one.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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And the Evo.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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The only two door
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